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Dec 30, 2011 21:51 |  #1

I spent a couple of weeks in Ontario visiting family/friends over the holidays. On the 28th I made the drive out to Hamilton to finally get my first look at the Warplane Heritage Museum, home to one of only 2 still flying Lancaster bombers in the world today.

This was a bit of a bucket list mission for me. I've been trying to get up in all 4 of the aircraft my Grandfather flew in WWII, I've been up in the Fleet Finch, the Harvard II (and IV) but I've yet to ride the Avro Anson and the Lancaster. I'm hoping to fly in the Lanc this summer but the Anson will be tricky. There's only 1 in the world flying, the one in Hamilton is slated to fly in the near future so for now, the museum gave me an opportunity to climb inside and sit at the #1 position where my Grandfather would have sat. A very kind gesture for sure. As a museum volunteer here in BC they refused to charge me admission and brought in their tour director to walk my mother and I around the facility. Needless to say, a donation or two, or three were made before we left.

Should be noted that just about everything in this museum with a prop flies. There's more outdoors but it was -15 out there and I opted to just stick with the indoor displays lol.

Here are some photos I snapped off. I apologize for the quality, my mom's back was acting up and I didn't want to drag the photo taking on longer than needed.

Left side of the museum

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Right side (middle wasn't visible from above)
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Avro Anson
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Hawker Hurricane
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What's so cool about this Hurricane? It's a model. The original (real) flying Hurricane was lost in a fire back in '93
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The Mynarski Lancaster - getting her annual
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Fairey Firefly - the first of their impressive collection. The original was lost in a fatal crash, this is their 2nd.
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There's a real nice DC-3 Dakota in there that's also getting an annual so photos weren't too great.

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Dec 30, 2011 22:14 |  #2

Nice set. I didn't know that they had a Hurricane, & you have some other rare ones in the gallery, too.


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Dec 30, 2011 22:35 |  #3

PhotosGuy wrote in post #13623371 (external link)
Nice set. I didn't know that they had a Hurricane, & you have some other rare ones in the gallery, too.

thanks Frank, you're right. An example being the Fleet Fort which is exceedingly rare and they have two, one of which is airworthy.

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Dec 31, 2011 13:30 |  #4

Really nice set!! Gotta love those warbirds!!


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Dec 31, 2011 14:51 |  #5

Great shots of what looks like a great place to explore. I've tried to find out where the Lanc served but they never answer my emails. My father flew & serviced them in Greenwood so I saw a lot of them in my early years.


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Dec 31, 2011 15:20 |  #6

butcherman wrote in post #13625768 (external link)
Really nice set!! Gotta love those warbirds!!

Thank you, definitely gotta love 'em!

cicopo wrote in post #13626064 (external link)
Great shots of what looks like a great place to explore. I've tried
to find out where the Lanc served but they never answer my emails. My father flew & serviced them in Greenwood so I saw a lot of them in my early years.

There's a list online that shows them all by ident. Give me a little bit and I'll see if I can dig something up for you. I know that the Mynarski Lancaster came to them in post war RCAF colors so it's had a long life.


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Jan 01, 2012 09:56 |  #7

That would really be great. We were stationed in Greenwood from 52-57 so if it served there my father would have worked on it. He originally joined to be a tail gunner during the war but fortunately it ended just before he was to deploy. With the war over he like many others returned to civilian life but he reenlisted and worked as an aero engine mechanic for his entire career.


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Jan 01, 2012 10:23 |  #8

My father was part of the BCATP during WW2 and flew in Ansons around Manitoba and Saskathewan during WW2. Very Nice seeing that plane in particular.

Would you mind if copied the Anson and sent it to him.

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Jan 01, 2012 10:52 |  #9

cicopo wrote in post #13628966 (external link)
That would really be great. We were stationed in Greenwood from 52-57 so if it served there my father would have worked on it. He originally joined to be a tail gunner during the war but fortunately it ended just before he was to deploy. With the war over he like many others returned to civilian life but he reenlisted and worked as an aero engine mechanic for his entire career.

The tour coordinator gave me a copy of notebook that their guides use when touring people around the museum. I did some reading to see where it was stationed post war and it said....She was retired in 1964 from...Greenwood, NS (and Torbay, NFLD). Guess that means you've got more incentive to go see her? lol. They're big 40th anniversary airshow is Father's Day weekend. The B-29 is scheduled to appear as well as a bunch of others from outside the museum.


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My father was part of the BCATP during WW2 and flew in Ansons around Manitoba and Saskathewan during WW2. Very Nice seeing that plane in particular.

Would you mind if copied the Anson and sent it to him.

Thanks in advance.

No problem at all, feel free. Here's a pic my mom took of me in the #1 position.

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Jan 01, 2012 11:16 |  #10

Much appreciated. I did a fair amount of internet research on the Anson and the BCATP several years ago. I gave it all to my father in one of those Duo-Tang notebooks. I'm not sure if that is exactly the same kind he flew since there were several different models. If I recall correctly, I think there was a museum in Alberta that was in the process of restoring one.

The war museum in Wpg is very small but does not have an Anson. It does have a small piece of the Avro Arrow among other planes. I can't remember exactly what piece it was but I seem to think it was part of the front of the plane.




  
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Norman B wrote in post #13629253 (external link)
Much appreciated. I did a fair amount of internet research on the Anson and the BCATP several years ago. I gave it all to my father in one of those Duo-Tang notebooks. I'm not sure if that is exactly the same kind he flew since there were several different models. If I recall correctly, I think there was a museum in Alberta that was in the process of restoring one.

The war museum in Wpg is very small but does not have an Anson. It does have a small piece of the Avro Arrow among other planes. I can't remember exactly what piece it was but I seem to think it was part of the front of the plane.

the museum I volunteer with in Langley, BC has an Anson but it's probably beyond help. We have a pile of parts though and may offer them to Hamilton to get theirs running. There's only one in the world flying and it's in the UK. Hamilton's will be the 2nd.


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Jan 01, 2012 11:37 |  #12

The museum in Wpg is actually called the Western Canada Aviation Museum. I was looking on the intenet for any info on the Arrow. There doesn't seem to be anything published so perhaps it is not there anymore. They could have moved the piece to another location.

I don't know what they did the Anson's after the war. I know many of them were dismantled and others just left in fields. Any pics I saw showed them in various pieces but mainly the frame only.

For those not familiar with the Anson, It was a training plane used by the RCAF which was part of the Bristish Commonwealth Air Training Plan during WW2.




  
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Norman B wrote in post #13629343 (external link)
For those not familiar with the Anson, It was a training plane used by the RCAF which was part of the Bristish Commonwealth Air Training Plan during WW2.

Correct, Ansons were used to train pilots on multi-engine, navigators, radio ops and bombers. Pretty versatile trainer


As for major parts of the Arrow in various museums around Canada...

The museum in Ottawa has 2 Orenda Iroquois engines, two wingtips, and a complete front end severed behind the intakes which includes the nose gear.

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Jan 01, 2012 12:20 |  #14

That's fantastic to see those Arrow pics.

Info based on what my father told me.

Brandon, Man - Was for navigation training first.

Defoe, Sask - Was for Bombing Training. second.

The actual airport they used was about 8 miles north of Defoe. I actually located the airport about 15 years ago. The hangers were still there and being used to store farm equipment and small planes like crop dusters.

There were concrete structures shaped like a V but squared off at the point. Each V was about 6 or 7 ft high. These were supposedly used as bombing targets. They also dropped practice bombs over Quill Lake. These bombs did not contain explosives as far as I know and weighed about 9 or 10 lbs. Quill Lake has no life in it due to alkaline and no environmental/fish damage was done.




  
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Jan 01, 2012 12:26 as a reply to  @ Norman B's post |  #15

Nice pics. I plan on getting there this year. Here are a couple of shots of the CWHM Lancaster flying this past September at the Vintage Wings air show in Gatineau. I have seen this aircraft fly five times now and it is always special. An auditory and visual delight.

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If you have an opportunity to visit the Ottawa area next September it is a do not miss event for war bird lovers. Here are a few shots of some of the Vintage Wings collection.

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