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FCP X vs Adobe Première on Macbook Pro ('11 models)

 
Don8to
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Jan 02, 2012 11:03 |  #1

Hi everyone,

I have two questions :

#1 - I will order, soon, a 15'' Macbook Pro with 8GB mem and a 750GB 7200rpm HDD and I want to know if Adobe Premiere CS5 will work fine. I will also use a second 7200rpm HDD (external).

#2 - I'm hesitating in buying Adobe Master Collection with Premiere CS5 (included in Master coll.) or buy Adobe "whatever coll." + FCP X. I just looked at the demo video of FCP X and it look awesome.

At the moment, i'm using Premiere CS5 and i like it. I'm still new with the software and i'm learning how to do color corrections, audio transitions, etc.

Which software do you prefer? And will Premiere CS5 will work fine on a Macbook Pro (see #1).

Thanks!


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Jan 02, 2012 11:23 |  #2

I prefer final cut on my macbook. I've never used premier, but here are many in the video community that do.

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Jan 02, 2012 13:01 as a reply to  @ Photo99's post |  #3

When you order your MBP, make sure you upgrade to the 2.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 processor. You will appreciate the speed. To pay for it, don't upgrade your memory until after you get your computer. You can get memory much cheaper through OWC or Crucial for example.

I have and use FCP 7, FCP X and Premier Pro CS5. All will work well on your MBP, just make sure you have an external Hard Drive to store your media (your capture scratch disk). With the new MBP you will have a Thunderbolt port and a Firewire 800 port. If you can get a Thunderbolt drive, you will not be slowed down. If not, Firewire 800 works very well too.

As far as which NLE to use, it's a mater of preference and what you like.

I like FCP 7 the best for editing, but it doesn't use 64 bit processing so rendering takes a while. There is an easy work around for this though. Do an uncompressed output (which is quite quick) and compress in Compressor 4.

Premier works well and does use 64 bit processing, but it lacks some of the features of FCP 7.

FCP X works well and does use 64 bit, but is a different way of doing things, lacks some features and third party add-ons and is still going through some growing pains.

Hope this helps.


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Jan 02, 2012 15:29 |  #4

I have a new MBP and use both FCP and CS5.5
I tend to use premiere more because you dont have to compress video and with the CS5.5 update, its very user friendly and comparable to FCP.
Also with premiere, I find it easier to edit specific clips in your timeline in aftereffects.

CalmAsToast wrote in post #13634539 (external link)
When you order your MBP, make sure you upgrade to the 2.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 processor. You will appreciate the speed. To pay for it, don't upgrade your memory until after you get your computer. You can get memory much cheaper through OWC or Crucial for example.

I have and use FCP 7, FCP X and Premier Pro CS5. All will work well on your MBP, just make sure you have an external Hard Drive to store your media (your capture scratch disk).

I like FCP 7 the best for editing, but it doesn't use 64 bit processing so rendering takes a while. There is an easy work around for this though. Do an uncompressed output (which is quite quick) and compress in Compressor 4.

Premier works well and does use 64 bit processing, but it lacks some of the features of FCP 7.

Hope this helps.

I was wondering,what features are you missing when using premiere?


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Jan 02, 2012 17:21 as a reply to  @ ChadAndreo's post |  #5

In order to make the most out of CS5.5 Premiere Pro, you need plenty of memory and a video card that will support the Mercury Playback Engine. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't play well with Adobe and doesn't ship any of their machines with supported cards (you'll have to buy a Mac Pro, replace the installed video card and add extra proprietary memory). If you want to realize the full power of Premiere Pro, it's a good idea to invest in a PC workstation or gaming station with plenty of memory and a supported card (a PC is the same price as a fully loaded Macbook Pro and vastly more powerful). If you do professional level work with DSLR videos and intend to use a lot of effects in post production, this is a good option. You'll be amazed with CS5.5 Premiere Pro's ability to manage native HD file formats with no conversion and will appreciate the seamless integration with the other Adobe Master Collection programs like Photoshop and After Effects. For heavy post production work, the efficiency gains will really improve your workflow.

Information on CS5.5 Premiere Pro performance:
http://www.adobe.com …premiere/perfor​mance.html (external link)

Great rigs (make sure you select a supported video card):
http://www.maingear.co​m …uters/custom-desktops.php (external link)


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Jan 02, 2012 20:48 as a reply to  @ Genmai's post |  #6

For a PC laptop, i was looking at this one :

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ails&Q=&sku=828​004&is=REG (external link)

I think it will be better than the MBP in term of power

What do you think?


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Jan 03, 2012 02:41 as a reply to  @ Don8to's post |  #7

For sure, the Asus laptop is dramatically more powerful than any Macbook Pro, and this machine will work wonders for graphics applications. The video card on this particular is very good and *should* be able to support Mercury Playback with an easy hack or even as is:
http://blog.krama.tv …e-more-nvidia-cuda-cards/ (external link)

If you don't want any headaches, however, you should get a desktop that comes with the right card. Make sure your card is on the list of supported video cards:
http://www.adobe.com …/premiere/tech-specs.html (external link)


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Jan 05, 2012 16:09 |  #8

CalmAsToast wrote in post #13634539 (external link)
When you order your MBP, make sure you upgrade to the 2.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7 processor. You will appreciate the speed. To pay for it, don't upgrade your memory until after you get your computer. You can get memory much cheaper through OWC or Crucial for example.

I have and use FCP 7, FCP X and Premier Pro CS5. All will work well on your MBP, just make sure you have an external Hard Drive to store your media (your capture scratch disk). With the new MBP you will have a Thunderbolt port and a Firewire 800 port. If you can get a Thunderbolt drive, you will not be slowed down. If not, Firewire 800 works very well too.

As far as which NLE to use, it's a mater of preference and what you like.

I like FCP 7 the best for editing, but it doesn't use 64 bit processing so rendering takes a while. There is an easy work around for this though. Do an uncompressed output (which is quite quick) and compress in Compressor 4.

Premier works well and does use 64 bit processing, but it lacks some of the features of FCP 7.

FCP X works well and does use 64 bit, but is a different way of doing things, lacks some features and third party add-ons and is still going through some growing pains.

Hope this helps.

Agreed with everything this man has said. Never add RAM through Apple. Get it from OWC. Upgrade the CPU. Find a copy of the FC 7 Suite. Don't bother with FCPX, it's crap (external link). Grab yourself PS and After Effects if you can.




  
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