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Dec 23, 2011 16:36 |  #1

Haven't shot hockey in a long time! A few from the season opener. I don’t like how the pant shells look on dark red team after going through my noise filter. Weird. Another game tonight.

All at ISO 6400 and f/2.8 Most at 1/640.

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Dec 23, 2011 18:22 |  #2

Nice, especially sharp for 6400. I can't get that.


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Dec 24, 2011 09:19 as a reply to  @ C_Heath31's post |  #3

Thanks. The MK3 does handle 6400 pretty well considering it is not a native ISO for the camera. It’s the camera's "H" mode. I do cheat a bit in that I have a Photoshop action that uses Neat Image and a profile made specifically for the MK3. A member here developed it. If you have a 1D3 and shoot high ISO, it is definitely something that needs to be in your tool box. It does a nice job with noise while keeping most of the detail because it doesn’t go the typical pixel smearing route, keeping the grain look. Pretty much just gets rid of the funky high ISO colored speckle thing. Although. Like with the dark red in these shots, it sometimes does weird things. Exposing to stops to the right helps a lot too. I would think the 7D pretty capable at 6400.


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Dec 31, 2011 19:57 |  #4

Two stops? Or 2/3 stop?

Lacks_focus wrote in post #13593746 (external link)
Thanks. The MK3 does handle 6400 pretty well considering it is not a native ISO for the camera. It’s the camera's "H" mode. I do cheat a bit in that I have a Photoshop action that uses Neat Image and a profile made specifically for the MK3. A member here developed it. If you have a 1D3 and shoot high ISO, it is definitely something that needs to be in your tool box. It does a nice job with noise while keeping most of the detail because it doesn’t go the typical pixel smearing route, keeping the grain look. Pretty much just gets rid of the funky high ISO colored speckle thing. Although. Like with the dark red in these shots, it sometimes does weird things. Exposing to stops to the right helps a lot too. I would think the 7D pretty capable at 6400.


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Jan 02, 2012 06:59 |  #5

Lacks_focus wrote in post #13593746 (external link)
Exposing to stops to the right helps a lot too.

sempaidavid wrote in post #13627252 (external link)
Two stops? Or 2/3 stop?

:o The "w" on my keyboard must be broken... Yeah, that's it!


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Jan 02, 2012 14:34 as a reply to  @ Lacks_focus's post |  #6

I am a fairly new starter with sport. I notice that you were using f2.8. From that am I right in assuming that you like to capture facial expression rather than a wider action shot that presumably would warrant greater DOF achieved with perhaps F4? Would light be the problem?


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Jan 02, 2012 17:12 |  #7

Plumtreelad wrote in post #13634981 (external link)
I am a fairly new starter with sport. I notice that you were using f2.8. From that am I right in assuming that you like to capture facial expression rather than a wider action shot that presumably would warrant greater DOF achieved with perhaps F4? Would light be the problem?

Hockey is a tough sport to shoot, lighting is usually poor, and the action is fast. That is why he is shooting at a high ISO, and a wide open f/stop.

Nice shots by the OP by the way




  
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Jan 02, 2012 18:19 |  #8

is this shot with 70-200mm?




  
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Jan 02, 2012 19:45 as a reply to  @ stu00a's post |  #9

f/2.8 and ISO 6400 for a fast enough shutter, no other reason. The DOF difference is really only a few inches between f/2.8 and f/4 at these distances and focal lengths. Beneficial if you want a better margin of error for ensuring the player is in focus, but it will not give you significantly more of the rink in focus. Here's a great chart where you can plug in the variables for your camera and see for yourself.

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I'd use f/4 if the light would allow, but given the choice, I rather have the extra stop go towards shutter speed, to a certain point. I mean if I'm getting say 1/2000 at f/2.8 and ISO 6400, I would shoot f/4 and back the ISO off to whatever got me around 1/640 or so. That would be pretty nice, but it never happens in local rinks. Maxed out all the time is just the way it is! If you think light is dismal for youth hockey, try shooting gymnastics!

Yes, 70-200 f/2.8 non-IS.


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