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Jan 03, 2012 20:44 |  #1

Is there some general rule about taking pictures in a public park, no admission, with a "white lens"? A staff person for a popular sax recording star ran off the stage and started screaming about me taking pictures and threatened to have me arrested. There were at least 2000 people,almost half of which had various cameras clicking away. Probably, I was ONLY one she saw with that lens, but I certainly was not the only one with a pro level camera. Does anyone know the rule, if there is one? I thought public outdoor park amphi theater all restrictions were off. (She saw at least 50 yards away)




  
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Jan 03, 2012 21:09 |  #2

The only rule I have about photographing in parks is not take pictures of children that aren't mine. :) Unless they are on a stage performing something.

They might have a "rule" about no photography, which sounds like they were selectively enforcing. It sure as heck isn't illegal and isn't something that can get you arrested. Trespassing is about the only thing you need to look out for. If they ask you to leave and you don't, you can be arrested. And I think even that varies in some states (I'm also assuming you are in the US).


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Jan 03, 2012 21:09 |  #3

You can take pictures any time any where you want.
Of course that only applies in Oz.

Welcome to the forum. It will help if we know where you are shooting photos.


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Jan 03, 2012 21:26 |  #4

Welcome, I encourage you to search the forums about shooting in public places. Lots of threads already on this topic. That said, if the park was in fact a public place, you should have no issues shooting. In terms of the performance, was it in a separate amphitheater portion of the park? For example, is there a separate staged area for the performance?

As Cal Said, who has a great no children policy, you likely cannot get in trouble for shooting, but if a park official asks you to stop or leave, you probably should unless you enjoy confrontation.


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Jan 03, 2012 22:03 |  #5

Laws vary, depending on what part of the world you're in, and you've given us no clue where you are.


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Jan 04, 2012 06:34 |  #6
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Have you arrested for taking photos in a public place? Unless it is a commercial shoot, you have every right to shoot in a public place. Children or not. Depends on how much stomach you got for taking photos of children (not recommended if not yours). But like someone said, laws vary by country (or states)




  
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Jan 04, 2012 09:05 as a reply to  @ RichSoansPhotos's post |  #7

Did you have the presence of mind to take photos (even better, videos) of this yakals rant? Would have been great for youtube. As stated, your location is unknown but if you're in the U.S. and in a public place, odds are you are completely within your right to: 1) take pictures, 2) tell this moron to stuff the sax where the sun don't shine


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Jan 04, 2012 09:11 |  #8

It is not the photographing that would get him arrested, it would be tresspassing. If asked to leave and one does not they can be arrested. There is legal precedence for this in the US (regardless of state), even recently with the occupy movement where folks were arrested for trespassing. The court upheld the decision in each case and has dating back for decades. A public park can have restricted hours, events, and sections. It one violates those restrictions, they can be legally removed or arrested. In this case, I doubt we have even 20% of the details or facts, so it is hard to say.


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Jan 04, 2012 09:12 |  #9

was it a 'paid' concert? if you had to pay to see the concert then there MAY be some rules about photographing the artist...


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Jan 04, 2012 09:24 |  #10

Curtis N wrote in post #13642843 (external link)
Laws vary, depending on what part of the world you're in, and you've given us no clue where you are.

Like Curtis suggests... WE NEED MORE INFO to properly assess the issue at hand...

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Jan 04, 2012 12:05 |  #11

Roddiman 64 wrote in post #13642417 (external link)
in a public park, no admission

In the very worst case scenario, you could get a fine. Definitely not arrested, unless you live in a dictatorship country. It would depend on city bylaws.

Some people have an inflated sense of entitlement, and absolutely no clue to their actual privacy rights. Some people don't like their picture taken, and will say anything so that you won't.

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Jan 04, 2012 13:07 |  #12

Crimzon wrote in post #13645610 (external link)
Some people have an inflated sense of entitlement, and absolutely no clue to their actual privacy rights. Some people don't like their picture taken, and will say anything so that you won't.

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If someone asks me to not take their picture I will always honor their wish, regardless of what my rights may be. Generally public areas are fair game but I know several public areas where certain parts require paid admission or as someone else noted above a paid function in a public park, then new criteria kicks in.


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Jan 04, 2012 13:21 |  #13

If this was a free event in a public place without any general rules against photography, then the staff person was out of line. I suspect that his interest was in controlling the distribution of high quality photographs of the artist. As is clear from the virtual pandemic of paparazzi pictures of celebrities, you were well within your rights.


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Jan 04, 2012 13:27 |  #14

A lot of comments seem to be way off the perspective of the original post:

Roddiman 64 wrote in post #13642417 (external link)
Is there some general rule about taking pictures in a public park, no admission, with a "white lens"? A staff person for a popular sax recording star ran off the stage and started screaming about me taking pictures and threatened to have me arrested. There were at least 2000 people,almost half of which had various cameras clicking away. Probably, I was ONLY one she saw with that lens, but I certainly was not the only one with a pro level camera. Does anyone know the rule, if there is one? I thought public outdoor park amphi theater all restrictions were off. (She saw at least 50 yards away)

Public performances in public parks are pretty common, and in those settings, well, taking photos is neither an invasion of privacy nor "trespassing", it's just common.

The person who hollered at the OP was not an "official" and so had no authority to stop the photographer. The person who was ranting, if we just take the story as presented, was just being, well, a jerk. Taking photos of a public performance, well, that's part of what happens with public performances!

Now, if this was a "venue", like a club or auditorium, then there may be "rules" about photographic gear -- that happens all the time. And, if you break the rules, someone with the actual authority will likely ask you to leave, and if you refuse, the cops could be called and things will not be good for you.

But this story is about a public park and a public performance. If you don't want your picture taken, stay out of the picture!


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Jan 05, 2012 11:47 |  #15

What this at a concert in a public park? Many times before a show they'll tell you that due to international copyright laws video taping or photographing the performance is illegal.

That said, little p&s cameras get away with it for some reason but a big dslr is like a weapon pointed at them.


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