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Why is using manual exposure such a big deal?

 
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Jan 04, 2012 07:51 |  #16

I was on full green box to begin with and it was not working great for me. Met up with a bunch of friends here and all were moving buttons, changing lenses, putting filters on, resetting the aperture, etc. I was in awe of the fun they were having. So, I went to manual and haven't turned back. For me, I want the best exposure for the gear I have. I am a math teacher so I approach the camera as if the settings are offering me the perfect equation to solve my problem. I just have to decide how to get to that. Lots of fun, and makes shooting very logical and creative at the same time.


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Jan 04, 2012 10:58 |  #17

Understanding the different metering modes is much more important than exposure modes IMO.




  
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Jan 04, 2012 11:09 |  #18

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Okay. Ive been thinking about this for quite awhile now. Im going to do a wedding soon and have been thinking of shooting in Aperture mode to lessen the stress of missing a moment.

Now just wondering why is it such a big deal to people to shoot in manual exposure mode?
When do you use maual exp and the other settings?

The point is that in unchanging light, when your framing changes or someone walks into or out of the frame, the exposure for the lighting theoretically is identical. Yet the change of brightness caused by someone walking in or out of the frame will cause automated modes like Av to set a different exposure--when any exposure change is totally unnecessary...you have unchanging illumination, right?!

If the illumination is indeed rapidly changing, for example, broken clouds blowing past the sun, a mode like Av and Tv make it easier to modify the exposure to suit the changing levels of illumination caused by the clouds.


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Jan 04, 2012 11:23 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #19

Why is using manual exposure such a big deal?

Using manual exposure is NOT a big deal.
Knowing how to use manual exposure is. :)


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Jan 04, 2012 11:23 |  #20

As a landscaper, I use AV 90% of the time. I also know how to use EC.:) When I first started photography, I went to a workshop from Popular Photography magazine and they said that 80% of professional photographers use AV mode, so I thought if it was good enough for them its good enough for me.


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Jan 04, 2012 11:49 |  #21

Sometimes aperture priority, or shutter priority can get it wrong. Its not the be all end all though. It's situational, and a bit of personal preference, IMHO anyway.


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Jan 04, 2012 12:59 as a reply to  @ Crimzon's post |  #22

I work in AV the majority of the time but I use most of the modes depending on what I am doing and what the situation dictates. I started in photography when you had to use a handheld light meter and then set your camera accordingly. So now we have manufacturers that are giving us all these extra options to get our images right. I, for one, embrace the new technologies as it saves time. I feel comfortable enough to be looking through the viewfinder and see what exposure it is suggesting and then either over or under expose using my thumb on the controls, never having to lower the camera. There seems to be some sort of "rite of passage" in that if you don't use M you aren't a real photographer. I know when to use and it is actually not that often based on my shooting habits. I've yet had anyone tell me what the difference is between a well exposed image using one of the auto modes and the same using M.


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Jan 04, 2012 20:21 |  #23

thirdkid wrote in post #13643839 (external link)
I know its not. But to some they jump to that quetsion of what mode were u using as if it made whoever the person seem pro or not..hmm

I'd venture to say if you're on the Green Box you're probably not a professional. I don't know any who would leave their images to chance. So yeah sometimes you can assume quite safely. As far as the other modes? I haven't used them all but really it comes down to how your brain works. Some people think in terms of exposure compensation while others think in terms of the triangle.

I can't get away with modes like Av because then I get forgetful to mind my shutter speed. It can change from shot to shot so you better watch it every time you press the button. If I shoot Manual, I know what it is because I just set it and it won't move until I move it. I can go to a safe 1/250th for an entire shoot then move everything else as needed. Tv or auto ISO won't work either because I'm always working with lights.


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Jan 04, 2012 20:33 |  #24

I don't look down on people who use modes that suit them--that is up to them if they want to use semi auto or full auto.

I started with my P&S on auto, and on my first DSL I used semi-auto modes like Av for the most part.

On my 7D exposure is exceptionally easy to control manually, and I much prefer it to any automatic mode. I think once you have enough practice in you instinctively know what you need for the shot, and it becomes MORE of a hassle having the camera guess for you.




  
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Jan 04, 2012 22:32 |  #25

Thanks for the replies. Too true. Forgot that AV does change automatically depending on exposure. Havent used AV or TV in awhile. But was thinking might be useful to use for a beach wedding coming up..


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Jan 04, 2012 22:35 as a reply to  @ post 13644325 |  #26

I use Av for everything but aircraft and sports. And night clubs.

Aircraft and sports get Tv, and night clubs as well as any other challenging lighting situation get manual with manual flash.


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Jan 04, 2012 22:38 |  #27

thirdkid wrote in post #13648795 (external link)
Thanks for the replies. Too true. Forgot that AV does change automatically depending on exposure. Havent used AV or TV in awhile. But was thinking might be useful to use for a beach wedding coming up..

Exposure won't change much until you go from backlight to front light. When I did those I found it better to lock it down for consistency. I wasn't fighting the camera so I could concentrate on the tears, smiles, hugs, etc.

Your exposure can go one way or the other in Av by simply framing wider or tighter from the exact same spot. The tux and dress will mess with you too, making you ride EC really hard.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder why they bothered with Av mode. Tv I can see the utility behind but Av? Shouldn't really exist, IMHO.


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Jan 04, 2012 22:43 |  #28

Been worrying about how im going to get the right exposure for this wedding. As cdifoto said, the dress and tux will mess with me. Specially the dress getting easily blown out and the indoor outdoor/background exposure needing two different exposures. Would it be better to shoot in manual mode for this or using an external on cam flash?


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Jan 04, 2012 22:46 |  #29

You can use manual AND an external flash. It won't be as bad as you think. The sand makes a huge reflector for the sun to bounce off of. Indoors, proceed as normal...same way you shoot snaps at home. Bounce the flash off a wall and/or ceiling.

Beach weddings are actually easier because there's almost always tons of light everywhere. You know...that whole bright & cheerful nonsense.


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Jan 04, 2012 23:10 |  #30

cdifoto wrote in post #13648825 (external link)
Your exposure can go one way or the other in Av by simply framing wider or tighter from the exact same spot. The tux and dress will mess with you too, making you ride EC really hard.

Here's an example: Post #47


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