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Jan 09, 2012 10:31 |  #1

So fired up about getting a 5D2. We've been shooting on 7Ds, and I love the fast focus, and it's a fine camera, but man, that cinematic look the 5D2 gets is just amazing. We played with a friends, outdoors, at night, and I clicked off a couple of shots that were just brilliant within seconds of it landing in my hands for the first time. Great camera. Just fired up! Figured I'd share. :D


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Jan 09, 2012 10:38 |  #2

Anyone actually ever do a 7D vs 5D2 comparison on the same lens? o_o would love to see if upgrading my body would do any good. I mean I know its more width, less noise and shallower DOF but what does it really look like?




  
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Jan 09, 2012 10:42 |  #3

When we played with the 5D2, we swapped lens on each body, but weren't able to keep the photos. But peeping them on the body, they were markedly more brilliant on the 5D2. I'm stoked! HEHEHE


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Jan 09, 2012 13:15 |  #4

I love the 5D2 and recently added a second one to my bag. I never had a 7D, but still use a 50D. The 7D didn't offer me enough to upgrade from the 50D for my tastes. At the end of the day, I just prefer FF. I grew up on film and I like to have an 85mm lens look like an 85mm lens.

That said, it's great to have both FF and crop in the bag; it essentially doubles your lens collection.


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Jan 09, 2012 13:44 |  #5

@peacefield - Nice. I think we'll end up with a second 5D2 before the summer comes along, and use the 7Ds for things that require fast focus, such as the pro/recessionals, and use the 5D2s for everything else. I'm just blown away with the low-light capabilities. Sucks for me though, my wife is the principal, and so she's gonna be rocking the 5D2 most of the time, leaving me relegated to 7D duty for the next several months. But still, it'll be epic! I've never shot FF, so I'm fired up for that. Gonna be rad.


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Jan 10, 2012 05:47 |  #6

I went from 7D to full frame Nikon D700. The iso performance is nice. 7D to 5D2 focus performance maybe not so good. DOF reduction good for some people, for me it can be hard to get enough DOF sometimes. If you understand light, how to create and shape it not really an issue either way.


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Jan 10, 2012 07:42 |  #7

Would you care to expand on the DOF thing please, Tim?


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Jan 10, 2012 11:54 |  #8

yeah, that is my biggest problem with the 5dII, i wish i had two so that my wife could have one too!! haha


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Jan 10, 2012 14:04 |  #9

@bigarchi - hahahahahaha.


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Jan 10, 2012 17:10 |  #10

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Would you care to expand on the DOF thing please, Tim?

You get a shallower DOF on a FF. It will take some getting used to. I have both the 7D and 5D2. My 5D2 is my go to camera. I use my 7D for sports/birding and is my secondary camera at events.

I have not done lens to lens comparisons. I know the IQ is a bit better in the 5D2. Both cameras have their place.

I was just fooling around with some high ISO images my 5D2.

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Jan 10, 2012 20:20 |  #11

Nice stuff. I can't believe how sharp your 7D is. Ours, at full crop, aren't that sharp. They're respectable, but not that sharp. Impressive. And the ISO performance is very nice.

So 5D2 is gonna have shallower DOF, so we may want to shoot an F1.4 lens at F2.8 initially until we're used to things?


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Jan 10, 2012 21:23 |  #12

I think he mightve sharpened the first one in photoshop according to one of his great tutorials here on smart sharpening! Unless you were talking about the original. Superb photos.

And Imagine great question im wondering the same thing.




  
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Jan 10, 2012 23:08 |  #13

Well in that case, someone point me to his tutorial because that looks superb!


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Jan 10, 2012 23:15 |  #14

It is based on this method

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If you use ACR you should take advantage of masking when sharpening as it will also provide edge sharpening as well.


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Jan 10, 2012 23:26 |  #15

tim wrote in post #13678566 (external link)
I went from 7D to full frame Nikon D700. The iso performance is nice. 7D to 5D2 focus performance maybe not so good. DOF reduction good for some people, for me it can be hard to get enough DOF sometimes.

^^This

I find the same thing. On FF I often don't have ENOUGH DOF. I end up having to stop my lens down around 1.3 stops to get enough. That either forces me to crank up my ISO by that amount, shoot at a much slower shutter speed, or crank out over double the flash power, and have to live with more than double the recycle time. Like anything, it's always a tradeoff. The main difference between FF and crop that people notice right away first thing is the shallower DOF and less noise. This often makes people ooooh and ahhhh at it's 'magical' wonder. But when you actually NEED some DOF (like event shooting when there's more than one person in the shot) the ISO advantage is lost, and the DOF is no longer different.

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If you understand light, how to create and shape it not really an issue either way.

I've found the same thing. Knowing I can control the light to be what I want it to be, I've actually found crop to work better for me than FF. I've found more advantages with crop over FF. I actually now get nicer looking images with crop due to the fact that I can get the DOF I want using lenses wide open to get the most pleasing bokeh. As soon as you stop down a lens, your aperture is no longer perfectly circular, which will inevitably affect the blur quality.

This is the reason I've moved my entire portrait business to crop only (portrait, boudoir, family, maternity, baby, etc...). My FF stuff is now only used for dynamic shooting like weddings (due to the awesome AF of my FF gear, not the sensor size), and for high resolution high detail dependent jobs like commercial shooting.

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