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ST-E2 / Pocket Wizard or Radio Poppers??

 
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Jan 11, 2012 12:28 |  #1

Hi,

Seems like nothing is straight forward.

I want the ability to use my flash (580 EX II) off camera. From what I have read thus far:

  • ST-E2 - limited range
  • Pocket Wizards - cheaply built and not reliable
  • Radio Poppers - don't know much about


I am using this as a total amateur and would be used mostly for a small studio I am putting together in my basement for family pics.

What do I get?

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Jan 11, 2012 12:36 |  #2

I haven't heard much about pocket wizards being unreliable. They are a proven piece of kit.

perhaps try looking into Cactus V5s, as they are similar to Pocket Wizards (manual only, no TTL), and run about $70 per pair. Each one is a tranceiver and can act as a transmitter or receiver.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:43 |  #3

I don't know why you think PocketWizards are cheaply built and unreliable...mine work great. I recently upgraded to the newer Flex/Mini and the AlienBees adapters. Along with the AC3, it's an excellent setup - ability to adjust lighting from the camera wirelessly is a huge timesaver, as well as ability to turn the light on/off or put it on a manual non-ttl evaluated mode.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:47 |  #4

Pocket Wizards rocks and I have never had a issue wih reliability. I have 5of the Plus 11 and they haven't failed me yet. If you wanna lean about lighting then go to strobist.com.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:50 |  #5

I'd recommend Cactus V5s. I've used them and they are reliable and consistent. you can get 2 sets (4 total) for the price of 1 pocket wizard plus II if those are out of your budget.


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Jan 11, 2012 13:11 |  #6

Numenorean wrote in post #13686330 (external link)
I don't know why you think PocketWizards are cheaply built and unreliable...mine work great. I recently upgraded to the newer Flex/Mini and the AlienBees adapters. Along with the AC3, it's an excellent setup - ability to adjust lighting from the camera wirelessly is a huge timesaver, as well as ability to turn the light on/off or put it on a manual non-ttl evaluated mode.


Hi,

I was reading about them from reviews on bhphoto and a number of people were complaining about the plastic used with the hotshoe always breaking or very fragile?


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Jan 11, 2012 13:15 |  #7

PWard wrote in post #13686368 (external link)
I'd recommend Cactus V5s. I've used them and they are reliable and consistent. you can get 2 sets (4 total) for the price of 1 pocket wizard plus II if those are out of your budget.

Hi Phillip,

Trying to read up on these Cactus V5's.

I am mostly interested in a reliable wireless trigger that will work ETTL. But am not ruling out manual mode either. Just want to buy one that I can keep and be happy with.

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Jan 11, 2012 13:17 |  #8

you didn't mention wanting ETTL in your initial post, so I assumed manual, which opens up a lot of possibilities as far as wireless triggers go.

Since you want ETTL, that narrows your choices down quite a bit.

look into Pixel King.

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Jan 11, 2012 14:05 |  #9

I use Radiopoppers PX system, and absolutly love it!!! It does have two downsides, 1: Expensive 2: You will need a master in your hotshoe.

However the positives for me are I can control 3 seperate groups, range of 1,500 feet, full manual control, ETTL/iTTL, and High Speed Sync up to 8,000/sec.....all being controled from my camera.

I used to own an ST-E2 and hated it so much, I just never used it, its big plus for me was to use it only for its auto assist light when shooting events in dim conditions. The line of sight thing was very unreliable for me.

I have zero experience with Pocket Wizards.


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Jan 11, 2012 14:11 |  #10

PWard wrote in post #13686534 (external link)
you didn't mention wanting ETTL in your initial post, so I assumed manual, which opens up a lot of possibilities as far as wireless triggers go.

Since you want ETTL, that narrows your choices down quite a bit.

look into Pixel King.

http://www.amazon.com …TF8&qid=1326309​412&sr=8-1 (external link)

Hi,

I like what I read on the Pixel Kings. Seem to be very positive. I will definately put them on the short list.


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Jan 11, 2012 14:12 |  #11

Dustman wrote in post #13686797 (external link)
I use Radiopoppers PX system, and absolutly love it!!! It does have two downsides, 1: Expensive 2: You will need a master in your hotshoe.

However the positives for me are I can control 3 seperate groups, range of 1,500 feet, full manual control, ETTL/iTTL, and High Speed Sync up to 8,000/sec.....all being controled from my camera.

I used to own an ST-E2 and hated it so much, I just never used it, its big plus for me was to use it only for its auto assist light when shooting events in dim conditions. The line of sight thing was very unreliable for me.

I have zero experience with Pocket Wizards.

Hi,

I appreciate the positive info on the Radio Poppers. Will delve into them a bit deeper, but they are probably a bit more than I want to spend for my limited uses.

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Jan 11, 2012 14:13 |  #12

You are right about the Pocket Wizards being cheaply built. :D
I was sitting on a stool at a basketball tournament. Half time was over, so I picked up my camera to get ready for the second half. Little did I know, my foot was on the neck strap and it jerked the camera out of my hands. The 1D MK III with 70-200 attached landed upside down on the hardwood floor. Luckily the PW took the brunt of the blow which saved the camera or lens from possible damage.

After a quick trip back to PW, it now has a new foot! :D


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Jan 11, 2012 14:19 |  #13

For manual use only, The Cybersync's are very reliable also.
Example - 580 EX II set up just beyond mid court aimed upward and towards the far basket at a basketball tournament. I triggered it on manual along with the two Alien Bees to give a little more light on the far end of the court.
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Jan 11, 2012 15:53 |  #14

get a flash that can act as a slave to your 580-II


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Jan 11, 2012 15:56 |  #15

SMP_Homer wrote in post #13687449 (external link)
get a flash that can act as a slave to your 580-II

true. Yongnuo or even Neewer flashes on Amazon are pretty cheap. I have one of the Neewer flashes. Slave mode works perfectly fine, and I only paid $30 for it.


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