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Jan 12, 2012 01:36 |  #1

Ok I have the 50d with the following lense 15-85. I am looking at doing getting the nifty fifty 50m 1.4 or 17-40L and not sure which one would fit better. I enjoy landscape however i have been asked to do some portraits for numerous people and want toknow if it would be better to go with niftyFifty since it is a 1.4 or if I should go with the "L" series lens? Will I really notice a difference with either of these compared to my 15-85?


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Jan 12, 2012 04:43 |  #2

The one people call "the nifty fifty" is the 1.8, not the 1.4. You can pick those up used for < $100.

On your camera, the 17-40 will give you framing like a 27-64. Whether or not that works for you depends on how you like to do portraits. At the long end, you can get decent head & shoulder shots. In the mid range it would be good for environmental portraits to show folks in their natural habitat.

Both are decent lenses, imo. Though the 50/1.8 is a bit slow & noisy to focus, and the out of focus highlights (bokah) aren't the prettiest.

Myself, I like the 85-300 range for portraits. It's a personal/style decision.

ETA: Sorry - can't compare either to the 15-85. Never seen one of those live and in person.




  
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Jan 12, 2012 05:44 |  #3

The Canon EF 50 1.4 would make a very nice addition for portraiture, giving you an effective look of an 85mm. I have found that shooting with it wide open (or very close to) has a pleasing "softening" effect on skin, requiring very little post-processing. The 50 1.4 is one of my favorite "walk around" lenses to.
You didn't say what kind of portraiture work you would be doing, but I am assuming it will be individuals, and this should give you an effective & comfortable working distance with your client.
But then again, I'm a howlie, what do I know :-)
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Jan 12, 2012 09:28 |  #4

You have a 15-85, why are you even considering the 17-40?

For portraits, the 50 1.4 would be a good choice.


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Jan 12, 2012 09:40 |  #5

The only advantage the 17-40 would give you over the 15-85 would be marginally better IQ (and I mean marginally) and a constant f4 aperture. You're losing 2mm off the wide end and 45mm off the zoom end. Both of those are pretty substantial on a crop body - especially the 2mm on the wide end.

As for the 50 1.4 vs. the 50 1.8, you'll get faster and quieter auto focus, smoother bokeh and marginally better IQ particularly at the corners (which would be somewhat nullified by the crop factor of the 50D). I have the 50 1.8 and have played with the 50 1.4 quite a bit. I don't personally feel the 1.4 is worth the extra $200+, but I don't live and die at 50mm (which will be giving you an 85mm FoV on a 50D).

Either 50mm (1.4 or 1.8) will blow out the background and give you better subject isolation then either the 15-85 or the 17-40. If it matters, you'll also be able to shoot in a lot less light then either lens as well with the 50s.

For around $100, the 50 1.8 is really tough to beat especially if it's your first foray into a prime (non-zoom) lens.


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Jan 12, 2012 10:12 |  #6

snyder17315 wrote in post #13691491 (external link)
The only advantage the 17-40 would give you over the 15-85 would be marginally better IQ (and I mean marginally)

Actually, it wouldn't. The 15-85 is better (sharper + more contrast) at all focal lengths and apertures.


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Jan 12, 2012 10:22 |  #7

azflasher wrote in post #13690204 (external link)
I enjoy landscape however i have been asked to do some portraits for numerous people and want toknow if it would be better to go with niftyFifty since it is a 1.4 or if I should go with the "L" series lens? Will I really notice a difference with either of these compared to my 15-85?

What type of portraits? If they are looking for studio-type shots you are probably far better off getting some basic lighting gear and just using the 15-85.




  
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Jan 12, 2012 10:46 |  #8

I have the 15-85mm lens with a 50D, and I shoot occasional portraits and weddings. It's a good lens for the awesome IQ and focal length, but not the best in terms of the available DOF since it's a "slower" lens. I use it for portraits if we're inside or in tight quarters, but otherwise I use my 85mm f/1.8 lens or my Sigma 50-150 f/2.8... both better options for narrow DOF.

The 15-85mm IS lens definitely does NOT lack in IQ or versatility... I think the 17-40L you're considering should be out of the question since it's major overlap. That lens is made for FF cameras.


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Jan 12, 2012 16:28 |  #9

I have the following westcott light system with background stand(greenscreen, black muslin)


http://www.photobasics​.net/details.cfm?id=r&​itemnum=402 (external link)

Also I figured I could use my 15-85 but was told it was to slow and that i should get the 50 f1.4 to see a big difference.


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Jan 12, 2012 16:33 |  #10

azflasher wrote in post #13693940 (external link)
I have the following westcott light system with background stand(greenscreen, black muslin)


http://www.photobasics​.net/details.cfm?id=r&​itemnum=402 (external link)

Also I figured I could use my 15-85 but was told it was to slow and that i should get the 50 f1.4 to see a big difference.

Thats because you have bad lights. Continuous lights like that are underpowered for portrait work. See if you can sell them, or perhaps return them and get some flashes.




  
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Jan 12, 2012 16:40 |  #11

The 50 F1.4 works very well on the 50D. When I had my 50D though I often found it a bit long in closer situations, so brought a Sigma 30 F1.4 to back it up. Once I had the Sigma 30 I hardly used my 50 at all until I brought the 5D2. The 30 just seemed a better "fit" with the crop body.


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Jan 12, 2012 20:10 |  #12

i have that lightset up because you need constant light for fill on green screen for easy removal. Will look at separate flash, never needed it yet since I mainly do landscape. Thanks for comments.

I think I will pick up the 50 f1.4, to go with new flash since both would equal cost of17-40L


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Jan 12, 2012 20:56 |  #13

I would only change/add a lense if the 15-85 can't produce the images i wanted.




  
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Jan 12, 2012 21:01 |  #14

Go for prime glass first. Add the zoom later. My 50/1.4 is a great lens. Learn how to use it and you will be happy, happy.


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