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85mm 1.2 as an only first lens

 
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Oct 12, 2011 09:34 |  #61

boclcown wrote in post #13231371 (external link)
sigma 50 1.4 and/or sigma 85 1.4

I have to agree if you can find a good sharp copy of the Sigma 85/1.4 it will stand up side by side to the Canon 85L and I would say faster as well in AF speeds.

I can't say enough great things about my 85/1.4 and it is sharp as a TACK and the bokeh is like silk! :cool:


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Oct 14, 2011 03:25 |  #62

david lacey wrote in post #13232164 (external link)
Well unload that 70-200 2.8 IS II paperweight.

nah....i feel good having a nice lens just sit in the bag only get some action like once a year, you know, like having a very nice car sitting in the garage with extremely low mileage that I only drive once a blue moon. why? because I can. :)


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Oct 14, 2011 03:41 |  #63

328iGuy wrote in post #13239804 (external link)
I have to agree if you can find a good sharp copy of the Sigma 85/1.4 it will stand up side by side to the Canon 85L and I would say faster as well in AF speeds.

I can't say enough great things about my 85/1.4 and it is sharp as a TACK and the bokeh is like silk! :cool:


as far we can see on the web ... Sigma's AF can be fast (I am note sure faster than 85L for sport 85L is really fast for sports) but they are surely totally erratic and near to unusable for sport (85L has one of the most accurate AF on the market)!!! ... but Sigma is cheap and can be perfect for fixed subjects.


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Oct 14, 2011 06:48 |  #64

I loved the 85L when I had it, but it really became to limited for how much it cost. I wish I could still have it, but in the end looking back at my 135L photos I prefered the look over the 85L. The 85L is more "dreamy" and at f/1.2, sucks in all the light it can find. But I just find the 135L to take a better photo.

Great lens to have, but as your sole lens? I think I would go with a cheaper 85mm and get something more versatile to use as well. Just my thoughts though.


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Oct 14, 2011 10:34 as a reply to  @ Invertalon's post |  #65

I own and use both .. (85L+5DMKII and 135L+1DMKIII) ... I would say I don't see any sharpness difference from f2.0, but just 85L is much more versatile for shoting action in the night and give more DOF range ...


some samples best viewed in FullHD mode, by clicking on pictures ..


135L

IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Other/85L12II-VS-135L20/i-fSd65H9/0/XL/105-02-XL.jpg
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85L even @f1.2 is sharp but dof can be limited for near portrait
IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Other/85L12II-VS-135L20/i-jSGsp7P/0/XL/MG0873-copie-2-XL.jpg
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85L
IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Other/85L12II-VS-135L20/i-xRbmDcJ/0/XL/B0P1564-XL.jpg
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85L
IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Other/85L12II-VS-135L20/i-SHMprFW/0/XL/B0P2752-copie-XL.jpg
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135L
IMAGE: http://photos.corbi.eu/Other/85L12II-VS-135L20/i-9j8DqgD/0/XL/IMG1383-XL.jpg
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Jan 13, 2012 13:44 |  #66

do remember it is not and will never be for moving objects like children playing bad for not moving objects 85mm 2.1 is the best for photographers


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Jan 13, 2012 13:45 |  #67

considder focusing 85 mm 1.2 is only about 25 mm !!!


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Jan 17, 2012 11:08 |  #68

vreeke wrote in post #13699102 (external link)
do remember it is not and will never be for moving objects like children playing bad for not moving objects 85mm 2.1 is the best for photographers

:rolleyes: don't worry for moving children, they will never be as fast and erratic as dogs .. and 85L's AF is fast and accurate ... assuming you have no chance your child will move from MFD (90cm) to infinite in the time AF of the 85L will have to focus. I have tons of sample wirh dogs @f1.2 to f2.0 .. AF is diefinitely not an issue;


Playing near MFD with erratic playing dogs with 5D MKII (I think I got 50% with both eyes in focus, which is not that bad)
http://photos.corbi.eu …=15468050&Album​Key=ZHDFCQ (external link)
http://photos.corbi.eu …=17147957&Album​Key=NMvfrr (external link)
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Jan 17, 2012 20:25 as a reply to  @ newworld666's post |  #69

I love it when someone says a lens (or body) won't work for something like fast action, then someone posts several pictures of fast action (like dogs at play) taken with that lens.

Just like someone else said you can't use the 85L for landscapes. Oh yea! I use both my 100L and 135L for some selected landscape shots. Bet I can take a few landscapes with an 85L too! Who makes up these rules any way??

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Jan 17, 2012 20:36 |  #70

It is an AMAZING piece of glass. A friend of mine recently acquired one and the bokeh is nothing I've ever seen. The only real problem you'll face is the slow AF. It's not something I expected from Canon's world famous USM, but its quite understandable. I don't know about it being the only first lens because of the range, but whatever makes your happy.


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Jan 17, 2012 20:45 |  #71

Purplecow wrote in post #13231074 (external link)
If you like a one trick pony, go ahead and get the lens. This lens suits well for portraits. Forget about sports, landscape, architecture, and etc...

My 85 is my go to indoor sports lens. Ice Hockey, Basketball, Volleyball. You name it I've even used it for outdoor soccer with out a problem.




  
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Jan 17, 2012 20:58 |  #72

Desert Pictures wrote in post #13722575 (external link)
I love it when someone says a lens (or body) won't work for something like fast action, then someone posts several pictures of fast action (like dogs at play) taken with that lens.

I think this is because people are discussing different things.

The 85L is perfectly capable of tracking action if it is locked on a single athlete (or dog, or whatever). That actually is not very demanding of AF speed.

What the 85L is not good at is changing subjects quickly while shooting sports. So if I'm shooting volleyball and I want to shoot the pass, the set and the hit on one series, the 85L in general will not allow me to make all three shots because it will not shift from subject to subject fast enough.

Same thing for basketball. I can track a guard coming across the top, but if that guard suddenly dishes off the ball to a forward that immediately goes up, I know I will almost always have OOF shots on the layup.

If you are trying to follow one athlete at a time the 85L is fine. If you are trying to work fast and get every athlete on a team at peak action (meaning you catch the peak action on every play) then the 85L is not very good at it.


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Jan 17, 2012 21:04 |  #73

Don't do it. If you get the "king" then what is for later? I just got mine about a week ago but have not had much time to love it yet. The focus is not that slow like people had said. To me it is fast enough to keep up with my two fast kids. Have you thought about 35L as your only lens. That I said it "If I have to sell all and keep only one lens, it would be 35L".


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