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Jan 20, 2012 21:00 |  #16

BananaRaw wrote in post #13739596 (external link)
Buying from eBay via Paypal gives you a certain safe feeling that's true. Buying new is even better, but that's not for everyones budget. When you don't buy new or via a site like eBay, the risks are higher and that's the point, then you should take the time to test it.

Perhaps you've had much better luck than I have getting feeBay to honor claims.


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Jan 20, 2012 21:12 |  #17

I have been pretty fortunate with all my purchases here, online, and craigslist. When I purchase here and FM, I used the feedback to help me with the seller. On craigslist, I take my computer and do a complete check up. I always tell the seller on craigslist that I will take 20-30 minutes for checkup.

With that I have to say I did have one semi bad experience on FM. A guy sold me a lens. The lens work but only arrived with one cap and poorly wrapped. The guy just didn't respond to any of my PM. This was prior to the having the feeback system on FM.




  
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Jan 20, 2012 22:50 as a reply to  @ drive_75's post |  #18

That is crazy and the guy has some nerve! I'd be mad to waste my time/money to meet him and found the lens to be broken. Glad you caught it though! All the items I've sold/bought used locally the buyer/myself tested before buying.
On a side note, I dropped my Sigmalux and there's not a thing wrong with it minus a little bump on the thread. :)


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Jan 21, 2012 00:07 |  #19

I do not like the idea of buying used. Most of what I see is not a lot of difference money wise for me to take a chance.


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Jan 21, 2012 00:21 |  #20

MilesW wrote in post #13741465 (external link)
I do not like the idea of buying used. Most of what I see is not a lot of difference money wise for me to take a chance.

Just about everyone starts out with an inflated price and will come down. Only oddballs like me start at the bottom line price.

I've purchased/traded a lot of used lenses here and on FM and have been very happy with all of them. I only deal with established members who participate on the forums.


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Jan 21, 2012 02:05 |  #21

It took you 3 hours to go 60km and back? Did you ride a bike?


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Jan 21, 2012 02:11 |  #22

MilesW wrote in post #13741465 (external link)
I do not like the idea of buying used. Most of what I see is not a lot of difference money wise for me to take a chance.

I always buy used, with the exception of some items. I have never found a reason to buy new, and I have yet to regret a single purchase.

55" TV: paid $1,600 when they were $2,500 new.
AV system I saved $500 on.
This 27" i7 iMac was an Apple refeb. Saved $300.
My 5D2 was canon reberb. Paid $1,699.
2001 Porsche 911 covetable with low miles in 2006. Paid $39,000. (I would hate to be the guy to ate that depreciation)

I am fairly well off, and could have bought everything new (will, not the $100,000 car). But I don't know why I would. Everything works as it would have new.


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Jan 21, 2012 02:31 |  #23

MilesW wrote in post #13741465 (external link)
I do not like the idea of buying used. Most of what I see is not a lot of difference money wise for me to take a chance.

Yeah there are some people, if not, many people, who don't put themselves in the buyer's shoes when selling on local Craigslist.

For example,

TS-E 45mm- locally here it's roughly $1300... $1200 if you're really lucky... if I buy one NEW from B&H, after being nailed by local taxes through the border, it's roughly $1340 I believe... :confused:

17-40L- locally here it's around the $700 - 750 mark, with ones occasionally going for 650 but they don't last.

50L- local price is $1300 - 1400. An new one around here is roughly the same price, only +12% tax (so, I really only save roughly that)

Sigma 50mm f/1.4: $500 - 550

In cases like these, I just can't be bothered to buy used if I'm going to save that puny ~10%. Personally for me, I must save at least 20% to justify buying used (although I'm more comfortable with 25 - 30%), otherwise I'm just going to stay safe and buy new. I'm taking risk that you're going to sell me something bad, and I expect to be compensated adequately... If I'm saving like only 200 from something worth 2000 new, then I'm not going to bother taking that risk... now if it was 1400 - 1600, then I'll think about it.

- My 5D2 (~5-6k clicks) I bought for $1750 used... 2240 new after tax locally (and at the time, was sold out everywhere). I think I'm happy with that, but make it 1800 and I probably wouldn't have done it.
- 17-40L paid $700 used, cost me roughly 830 - 850 after tax and border surcharges as its being shipped through the border (or 917 after tax through a local store).This one was MEH, since at the time it was more of an impulse decision. Would have been happier if I paid 600.
- Sigma 50mm f/1.4 I bought for $450... this one I was fine with since I purchased it from a POTN member with good history and he acknowledged that it was a good copy, so avoided the Sigma Lottery at the same time.


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Jan 21, 2012 03:09 |  #24

It's nice to hear all your stories and different experiences with buying online.

If I see him selling the lens on some dutch forum then things will get nasty ;)

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It took you 3 hours to go 60km and back? Did you ride a bike?

It was rush hour, so there were a lot of traffic jams and it was raining like hell. It would be pretty fast for a bike though :p



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Jan 22, 2012 00:57 |  #25

Winwin wrote in post #13741866 (external link)
Yeah there are some people, if not, many people, who don't put themselves in the buyer's shoes when selling on local Craigslist.

I've seen this when I was looking for a used Mac Mini to hang off my TV as a media player - people were offering 2-3 generation old units for what a new one costs. I even found one guy asking $900 for a G5, "FIRM". Sure, sometimes there's room for negotiation, but I'm not great at haggling, and I figure that someone who starts out delusional isn't the best person to do business with.

(I got a Boxee Box instead)


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Jan 22, 2012 01:34 |  #26

Winwin wrote in post #13741866 (external link)
Yeah there are some people, if not, many people, who don't put themselves in the buyer's shoes when selling on local Craigslist.

For example,

TS-E 45mm- locally here it's roughly $1300... $1200 if you're really lucky... if I buy one NEW from B&H, after being nailed by local taxes through the border, it's roughly $1340 I believe... :confused:

17-40L- locally here it's around the $700 - 750 mark, with ones occasionally going for 650 but they don't last.

50L- local price is $1300 - 1400. An new one around here is roughly the same price, only +12% tax (so, I really only save roughly that)

Sigma 50mm f/1.4: $500 - 550

In cases like these, I just can't be bothered to buy used if I'm going to save that puny ~10%. Personally for me, I must save at least 20% to justify buying used (although I'm more comfortable with 25 - 30%), otherwise I'm just going to stay safe and buy new. I'm taking risk that you're going to sell me something bad, and I expect to be compensated adequately... If I'm saving like only 200 from something worth 2000 new, then I'm not going to bother taking that risk... now if it was 1400 - 1600, then I'll think about it.

- My 5D2 (~5-6k clicks) I bought for $1750 used... 2240 new after tax locally (and at the time, was sold out everywhere). I think I'm happy with that, but make it 1800 and I probably wouldn't have done it.
- 17-40L paid $700 used, cost me roughly 830 - 850 after tax and border surcharges as its being shipped through the border (or 917 after tax through a local store).This one was MEH, since at the time it was more of an impulse decision. Would have been happier if I paid 600.
- Sigma 50mm f/1.4 I bought for $450... this one I was fine with since I purchased it from a POTN member with good history and he acknowledged that it was a good copy, so avoided the Sigma Lottery at the same time.

You are right but once in a while you will find some great deal. I found a 1D3+17-40L in 8+ condition for $900 total. I also found Canon 24-70L for $700. Both of these cases, the seller just want to sell the darn thing because it's not being use. And yes I'm 99.99% sure it's not stolen. Both of these I found on local CL. I also bought a bunch of stuff used here and FM. I know the saving sometime is not great but adding them all together can buy me an "L" lens.




  
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Jan 22, 2012 01:44 |  #27

anthony11 wrote in post #13746471 (external link)
I've seen this when I was looking for a used Mac Mini to hang off my TV as a media player - people were offering 2-3 generation old units for what a new one costs. I even found one guy asking $900 for a G5, "FIRM". Sure, sometimes there's room for negotiation, but I'm not great at haggling, and I figure that someone who starts out delusional isn't the best person to do business with.

(I got a Boxee Box instead)

True. There's a lot of delusional people on CL and even here on POTN. I'm like you that I'm not good at price negotiation so if the price is not where I'm willing to pay, I just move on. When I find an item I want that is close enough then I'll just buy it even if I pay a little higher then the going rate given if the seller have a great reputation and the item is in new new condition. I bought over 30 items on here and POTN and not one item did I ask the seller to lower the price.




  
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