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Jan 24, 2012 17:45 |  #76

I don't think you're going to be happy, so how much are you going to sell this 7D for?...i want to upgrade soon...although i kept saying i'd wait for the next 7DIIwhatever came out...


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Jan 24, 2012 17:49 as a reply to  @ post 13762112 |  #77

These two were stopped and talking on the corner. Shot at ISO 800:

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Here's one from the 50D, same settings and lens combo:

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None of these had been sharpened. They are all the same, baseline levels.

The detail captured in the top images is no good for wildlife. The combination of softness and noise kills the files. There's noise with the 50D, too, but it's RAW images are much sharper than the 7D's, so you stil get great detail at wildlife crucial ISO's like 800.

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Jan 24, 2012 17:55 |  #78

DreDaze wrote in post #13762286 (external link)
I don't think you're going to be happy, so how much are you going to sell this 7D for?...i want to upgrade soon...although i kept saying i'd wait for the next 7DIIwhatever came out...

I've had an offer of $1500 for the 7D, grip, 55-250 IS. I love the features of the 7D. They're awesome. But if I'm not happy with the IQ, who cares? What is extra reach and features worth when I cringe at the results?


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Jan 24, 2012 18:01 |  #79

Mike, I've tried this but my photoshop is deciding it does not want to open for whatever reason (Darn computers)

Try resizing the 7D files to 83% of the size and compare to the 50D again.


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Jan 24, 2012 18:13 |  #80

Buying Canon refurbish could be good idea. That way you get the camera cheap and tested by canon folks. However, as I can imagine it would be hard to sell this to you due to problems you faced with Canon.
These are some of those boundary line (in this case repetitive and consistently bad) cases.

I did have face issue with my 15-85 lens in past, but Canon did good job of fixing it for free. I have never had issues with 'Made in Japan' canon items like 7D, 24-105, 17-55, 70-200 f/4 L IS etc.


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Jan 24, 2012 18:38 |  #81

I Heard Nikon repairs cost considerably more than Canon repairs. Unfortunately I never heard this directly from the source and I never owned a Nikon or had to send anything to Canon repair to judge.




  
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Jan 24, 2012 18:48 |  #82

Mike55 wrote in post #13762302 (external link)
These two were stopped and talking on the corner. Shot at ISO 800:

None of these had been sharpened. They are all the same, baseline levels.

The detail captured in the top images is no good for wildlife. The combination of softness and noise kills the files. There's noise with the 50D, too, but it's RAW images are much sharper than the 7D's, so you stil get great detail at wildlife crucial ISO's like 800.

These are pretty bad and definitely OOF, can you try Live View or manual focusing.
What service center did you use, Irvine?




  
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Jan 24, 2012 19:09 |  #83

Andrew_WOT wrote in post #13762630 (external link)
These are pretty bad and definitely OOF, can you try Live View or manual focusing.
What service center did you use, Irvine?

Yes, Irvine. Most of my 7D shots look like those two, with noise of course depending on ISO.


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Jan 24, 2012 19:10 as a reply to  @ post 13762275 |  #84

That is weird.
My 60d doesnt seem to have noise issues below 1000 ISO.
Above that and it can get noisy (especially if I underexpose at all).



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Jan 24, 2012 19:26 |  #85

Were those images direct imports or did you do any adjustments/presets to them? 100% I assume.


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Jan 24, 2012 19:30 as a reply to  @ K6AZ's post |  #86

those look like my 100% crops. Are they crops or full size pictures (no cropping)?



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Jan 24, 2012 19:38 |  #87

Here's 100% on my 7D at ISO 800. The noise is identical to my first 7D body and is removed easily in LR.

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Jan 24, 2012 19:38 |  #88

These are pure RAW files with no post processing at 100%. I've been shooting DSLR since the XT came out, and this camera produces the worst files. The 40D has the nicest files.

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That's soft for such a sharp lens. I was recently sent RAW files with a 5DII and a $400 Tamron that make our crops look like pudding.


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Jan 24, 2012 19:43 |  #89

Mike55 wrote in post #13762862 (external link)
These are pure RAW files with no post processing at 100%. I've been shooting DSLR since the XT came out, and this camera produces the worst files. The 40D has the nicest files.

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That's soft for such a sharp lens. I was recently sent RAW files with a 5DII and a $400 Tamron that make our crops look like pudding.

I posted that for demonstrating the noise. Those birds move fast and in the shade that shutter speed isn't fast enough for them. I could post examples from that lens and the 7D that are razor sharp and hard to tell from the 1D4 or 5D2, both of which I also own.


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Jan 24, 2012 19:46 |  #90

Here's the 5D II at 100%, RAW file, no post processing using a $400 Tamron 70-300 at 135mm:

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