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Jan 25, 2012 13:06 |  #46

for those complaining about it....

I can see one huge advantage... If you throw a P&S in your kit anyway, wouldn't it be great to have that one camera double as your backup in a pinch?

The NEX 7 in an awesome camera. In real world applications, I bet 99% of the population, would not know the difference between an image taken with this camera, or a 7D. (aside from fast sports photography)


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Jan 25, 2012 16:46 |  #47

mafoo wrote in post #13766769 (external link)
I can see one huge advantage... If you throw a P&S in your kit anyway, wouldn't it be great to have that one camera double as your backup in a pinch?

Only makes sense if your P&S is one of those megazoom SLR look-alikes. The NEX lenses are all big enough (bar the 17/2.8) to fully negate the size advantage of the body.

The NEX 7 in an awesome camera. In real world applications, I bet 99% of the population, would not know the difference between an image taken with this camera, or a 7D. (aside from fast sports photography)

I'd wager the NEX-7 will produce plenty of shots that are of significantly higher IQ than the 7D (except, as you said, for sports). The 24MP sensor, with its weak AA filter, makes it just about the best APS-C landscape camera out there - in theory. You need to find a WA that works well on it first.


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Jan 25, 2012 16:51 |  #48

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Only makes sense if your P&S is one of those megazoom SLR look-alikes. The NEX lenses are all big enough (bar the 17/2.8) to fully negate the size advantage of the body.

I think it's a 16/2.8, but anyway, what's wrong with a that? A little wide.

I am sure lenses for the E mount will be coming. Just takes time.


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Jan 25, 2012 20:08 |  #49

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I think it's a 16/2.8, but anyway, what's wrong with a that? A little wide.

I am sure lenses for the E mount will be coming. Just takes time.

Yeah, sorry, 16/2.8! Nothing wrong with it at all on paper, but it's got pretty inferior border sharpness which is a big no-no for me. The mirrorless wide-angle problem seems like a tough nut to crack - the only corner-to-corner sharp WA glass for mirrorless cameras at the moment is in m4/3 territory (the Oly 12mm, the two UWA zooms), and they have their own problems - mainly heavy distortion in uncorrected RAWs. And the size of the sensor is obviously the chief factor behind their success. On the APS-C front, Sony's is mediocre, Samsung's 16/2.4 is excellent in the center but has serious field curvature that screws up the borders, and Fuji's upcoming 18mm looks by far the weakest of the three primes being released with the X-Pro 1 (though we'll have to wait and see how production copies stack up in real tests).


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Jan 25, 2012 21:29 |  #50

Well, I am enjoying my $150 nex-3 that came with a 16mm 2.8. Was being discontinued at my local sears and a former employee stole everything but the body, they added the 16mm so they could sell it. I had to buy a eBay charger and battery.

I also bought a cheap eos to nex adapter for it (no aperture) so I could swap my m42 glass from my 60d to the nex without removing the adapter.

For $175 total I think I got a pretty decent backup.


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Jan 26, 2012 10:54 |  #51

Hello,

I finally managed to get some Sony Nex-7 HD video samples up to youtube and you can check it out here if you like:

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I also put together a 6 minute How-To video for those interested in learning how to set-up the Nex-7 for using lens adapters and manual focus.

http://sonyalphalab.co​m …apters-on-the-sony-nex-7/ (external link)

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Jan 28, 2012 15:57 |  #52

I guess I kind of see it the same way as some of the others, I mean if you have a smaller body camera why mount a huge L lens to it? It just seems kind of pointless to have a smaller camera to put a HUGE lens on it. I could see it as a fantastic camera to have on family outings and such but if I plan on doing anything that involves L lenses then I'll just grab the body it's already attached to.... not the smaller NEX 7..... It just seems like it goes against everything the NEX is suppose to be, a smaller light weight camera that can give great results yet not be a bane to carry.


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Jan 29, 2012 09:04 |  #53

Who cares if you have a small body and large lens?
You people only look at one side of things. You only look at it from the perspective of matching lenses to a body.

What if I say to you this:

I have some lens. Does it matter whether I put it on a small body or a large body? Probably no. As long as the body does what I need it to do.

Now what?

It may not make much sense to buy an L lens for the NEX but it may make much sense to buy a NEX for the L lens (or many L lenses that you own).




  
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Jan 29, 2012 17:05 |  #54

To each his own but I still stand by what I said.... It defeats the whole reason that camera was made, small package with big performance. Looks aside I'm not going to grab the nex7 and mount a 24-70 to it.... It would just be pointless when I can use my 7d.

Now I'm not saying its a bad system and it has its place, it just take the place of a dslr because that's not what it is. It's meant to be the serious p and s that has performance and won't be a pain to carry. All I'm saying is if it's to the point where I'm putting the brick on there then I might as well have the 7d. Not only would it be easier to handle ill feel safer holding.

Again not hating on the nex and I understand the reason behind why someone would want something like that, just pointing out a few things that I feel would make it seem strange to have. That and the nice lens you could have got for the price of it..... Or a nice pelican case with dividers and top organizer..... Just saying lol


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Jan 29, 2012 18:49 |  #55

It's funny to see how divisive the NEX cameras are among enthusiasts. I'm definitely in the "why the hell would you put a huge expensive EF lens on that little body" camp, but I can definitely see the novelty in doing it if you've already got the lenses lying around for use on your SLR.

The key takeaway from this whole thread, along with pretty much all NEX-related discussion, is that there simply aren't any good native lenses available. There's an average quality kit zoom, an average quality superzoom, a pretty good 55-200, a junky pancake, and an OK macro. Then there are the two much-desired primes, one of which is a big disappointment (the 24/1.8) and the other being a Nifty Fifty that costs as much as the Canon 50/1.4 and is bizarrely long. Though the IS is pretty cool.

I read an interview with a Sony exec on one of the rumor sites in which he said something like "we're also going to be producing more lenses than we originally planned." I really think that Sony had very little intention of the NEX system being anything more than a P&S upgrader's tool, and were caught by surprise by the enthusiast reaction to it. If I remember correctly, the NEX-7 itself was designed as a reaction to customers' requests as opposed to a planned development. So far, those two aforementioned primes seem to be little more than SLR lenses with glorified built-in NEX adapters, and Sony's biggest concession to growing the lens lineup? A gigantic, expensive adapter that lets you use A-mount lenses. A very cool thing, but it's pretty sad that it's got to exist.

So basically Sony's created the king of mirrorless cameras (and it'll remain king indefinitely - I have no doubt I'll like the XP1 better but it's much more of a niche product), but his round table is pretty much the president's cabinet from "Idiocracy." Currently the only way to make the most of those wonderful 24MP and weak AA filter is to use either SLR glass or whatever rangefinder glass you can find with a retrofocal design. And there are plenty of doubts that there will ever be any truly good, compact native lenses, seeing as Sony shot themselves in the foot with their tiny flange distance (though Fuji seems to have solved that problem with the XP1).

Which is why Canon should be able to wipe the floor with Sony if they make a NEX-7 competitor instead of a Nikon V1 competitor. Slightly longer flange distance, a few pancakes, two customizable jogwheels, and a standard flash shoe, and they'll be off to the races.


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Jan 30, 2012 15:14 |  #56

Most likely. I'm one of the many moving away from a SLR (5D2 in my case) to a NEX setup. I love the fact that I can carry the camera around since it's the size of a P&S, can now afford legacy (and recent) high end Leica and Zeiss primes and have been extremely happy with the image quality.

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for those complaining about it....

I can see one huge advantage... If you throw a P&S in your kit anyway, wouldn't it be great to have that one camera double as your backup in a pinch?

The NEX 7 in an awesome camera. In real world applications, I bet 99% of the population, would not know the difference between an image taken with this camera, or a 7D. (aside from fast sports photography)




  
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Jan 30, 2012 15:52 |  #57

that's my exact story, rioni. i've owned five canon SLRs, both film and digital. a year ago, i got an M42 adapter for my EOS body and have been hooked on legacy manual lenses since. i owned my NEX for a week before i decided to totally abandon my digital SLR altogether. i don't miss it much. yes, my current setup is much slower and i only have the 16/2.8 lens that has AF but it's right for me. the ability to use so many different lenses and mounts (at a very affordable cost) is worth it to me. there isn't a zoom lens made in E mount with canon L quality but i think that will come, too.


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Feb 01, 2012 09:51 |  #58

Putting a large lens on a small body doesn't defeat its purpose, why? Cause its purpose is versatility. The fact that I can put that large lens on that small body doesn't change the fact that I can put a pancake lens on it and maintain its small profile. Would I use an oversized superzoom as a walkaround lens on such a small body? No, of course not but I wouldn't even do this for my DSLR.


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Feb 01, 2012 18:36 |  #59

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Putting a large lens on a small body doesn't defeat its purpose, why? Cause its purpose is versatility. The fact that I can put that large lens on that small body doesn't change the fact that I can put a pancake lens on it and maintain its small profile. Would I use an oversized superzoom as a walkaround lens on such a small body? No, of course not but I wouldn't even do this for my DSLR.

Let's say you have a very capable dSLR like a 7D or something, plus a bunch of EOS lenses for it.

And then you get an NEX body and a few lenses (assuming Sony expands the lens line) in order to have something more portable.

Now, I can see slapping the EOS lenses on the NEX if I could do it for free. But would you really spend $170 for an adapter to use the EOS lenses on the NEX? To me that's a waste of $170, because the EOS lenses kill the portability of the NEX. And if I'm carrying a large lens someplace then I might as well take the 7D to go with it.

I just don't see where the combo of NEX + EOS lens is worth $170.

I know what two systems are like. I have a m4:3 body and I have never had any desire to mount any of my EOS lenses on it. What would be the point? I do see no problem with the cheap adapters allowing for older MF lenses on the NEX. These are often smaller, and such an adapter is going to be quite cheap.


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Feb 01, 2012 18:47 |  #60

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Let's say you have a very capable dSLR like a 7D or something, plus a bunch of EOS lenses for it.

And then you get an NEX body and a few lenses (assuming Sony expands the lens line) in order to have something more portable.

Now, I can see slapping the EOS lenses on the NEX if I could do it for free. But would you really spend $170 for an adapter to use the EOS lenses on the NEX? To me that's a waste of $170, because the EOS lenses kill the portability of the NEX. And if I'm carrying a large lens someplace then I might as well take the 7D to go with it.

I just don't see where the combo of NEX + EOS lens is worth $170.

I know what two systems are like. I have a m4:3 body and I have never had any desire to mount any of my EOS lenses on it. What would be the point? I do see no problem with the cheap adapters allowing for older MF lenses on the NEX. These are often smaller, and such an adapter is going to be quite cheap.

Adapting EOS lenses is definitely very fringe (especially without aperture control) but I can see the appeal in it just to use some of Canons fantastic tele zooms. But in regards to using a large body if your gonna use a large lens, I'm of the opinion that even the small body has an impact of the overall setups profile even if it has an oversized zoom mounted. Is it portable at this point? Definitely not but I still maintain that its a good thing that one can adapt these lenses when a class leading EOS lens is needed over portability.

But all that aside, I definitely wouldn't go out of my way to adapt EOS lenses if I didn't originally own said lenses. Fortunately we have Conurus giving NEX users aperture control with EOS lenses but that's a $400 adapter.


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