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Feb 01, 2012 19:12 |  #61
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Now, for image quality. The 24mp sensor in the Nex-7 according to DXOMark is almost as good as the 5D mark II Full Frame sensor. That is dam good! So, why not put the best glass possible on it to take advantage of the sensor seeing as I already own it all ;)

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I hear this talking point all the time. I love when people compare brand new cameras with cameras that are almost 3.5 years old. The nex-7 is sexy, but comparing it to a 5DmkII is just moronic.




  
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Feb 01, 2012 19:43 |  #62

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I hear this talking point all the time. I love when people compare brand new cameras with cameras that are almost 3.5 years old. The nex-7 is sexy, but comparing it to a 5DmkII is just moronic.

It's pretty useful, though, if you're like me; a 5D2 user looking to downsize. I know a lot of people in the exact same position. And while the NEX-7 has comparatively poor high ISO performance, pixel-level detail (the most important aspect for me) is astonishingly good for such a high-density APS sensor.

Personally I'm sick and tired of packing the 5D2 and lenses in my carry-on bag and then lugging them around on my shoulder while shooting. I love the camera to death and I love the lenses I've got, but while the images I get are worth the trouble, it's a lot of trouble. The thing about it is that to me, it's really just a platform for high-resolution, high-detail pictures (and occasionally low-light stuff). I don't care about the AF, or the ergonomics (no different from my old 40D aside from a few new firmware features), or the build quality, or anything else...just the RAW files that come out of it. The NEX-7 seems like a capable replacement for that platform - at 1/4 the volume and 1/3 the weight.

That's why I don't even mind the idea of putting big SLR lenses on it. If I buy one, I'll probably keep my 35-70 for a while just because I know that even if it looks ridiculous, it'll produce fantastic images. The problem is buying a $1200 camera knowing that there are virtually no worthwhile autofocus options for it, small or otherwise. It's not an idea that fills me with confidence.


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Feb 01, 2012 19:55 |  #63

5DMKII could still be considered the top of the heap as far as IQ so if the NEX-7 can give you relatively similar quality IQ then that's a great level its achieved. Of course I expect it to be superseded by the modern refresh of Full Frame sensors we should be seeing this year.


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Feb 01, 2012 21:25 |  #64

I know one thing the nex7 prob. Beats the 5d mkii in. = ). Af system lol


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cptrios wrote in post #13809455 (external link)
Personally I'm sick and tired of packing the 5D2 and lenses in my carry-on bag and then lugging them around on my shoulder while shooting. I love the camera to death and I love the lenses I've got, but while the images I get are worth the trouble, it's a lot of trouble. The thing about it is that to me, it's really just a platform for high-resolution, high-detail pictures (and occasionally low-light stuff). I don't care about the AF, or the ergonomics (no different from my old 40D aside from a few new firmware features), or the build quality, or anything else...just the RAW files that come out of it. The NEX-7 seems like a capable replacement for that platform - at 1/4 the volume and 1/3 the weight.

That's why I don't even mind the idea of putting big SLR lenses on it. If I buy one, I'll probably keep my 35-70 for a while just because I know that even if it looks ridiculous, it'll produce fantastic images. The problem is buying a $1200 camera knowing that there are virtually no worthwhile autofocus options for it, small or otherwise. It's not an idea that fills me with confidence.

Yesterday I got to play with a NEX5n. What an interesting idea! It is far from perfect right now, but probably won't be for long. My wish to have AF, glass with fast apertures (and constant apertures) and off camera flash capability is holding me back from the NEX cameras in the immediate future. The fact that I am well invested n Canon (and happy with them) makes me wish for a Canon mirrorless system. To bad the new G1 X doesn't have interchangeable lenses...


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Feb 05, 2012 06:07 |  #66

Thanks for all the comments everybody and some really great points on both sides of this discussion.

Here is what I'm thinking as far as using other lenses on the Nex camera system.

The current Sony Nex Lens Line-up as said above is Poor because of the original Marketing Model Sony was using. They went for the point and shooter looking for better quality. Instead they got slaughtered by DSLR owners looking to downsize or whatever.

So that being said,the pancake style lenses suck for a # of reasons on the Nex, and all the pretty good lenses are a decent size but still considerable smaller and lighter than regular lenses.

People like me are desperate for good glass to use on the Nex system and if you want the best image quality possible out of the camera, you will want to use other lenses. I also could care less about what people think? Good quality optics need to be large by nature, there is nothing that can be done about it. The short flange distance does handcap the nex system a bit, but I have no doubt the engineers will figure something out in the near future!

Possible a Full Frame model Nex style camera on the horizon ;)

I love my 5D mark II, and I would not replace it with a Sony Nex-7 by any means. It is a really nice camera though!!

Here's a few more sample pics from the Nex-7 usning the E-mount Rokinon Fisheye Lens

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Feb 11, 2012 17:16 |  #67

^- Whoa, love that image man!


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Feb 11, 2012 17:21 |  #68

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^- Whoa, love that image man!

I had to laugh because I skimmed the text and then looked at the image and I was like.....'how the f**k did he light this so evenly?'

Had to go back and re-read before I figured it out.


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Feb 11, 2012 17:30 |  #69

At the end of the day, pick what works for you personally...

I may joke about the NEX system sometimes, but i do like it, i have a lot of respect for it and its capabilities, it wouldnt be my number one choice for a mirrorless personally because there just is a serious lack of lenses out there (I'd have the OM-D + Summilux 25mm f/1.4) and manual focus just isnt for me...


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Feb 11, 2012 18:36 |  #70

Looks like I'm going with a NEX-7 and a Fuji X100 to replace my 5d2. Gonna put a Contax G 45/2 on the NEX most of the time and buy an old Nikon PC lens to to get some ridiculous stitching going. I hate the NEX lens lineup with a passion but maybe someday it'll catch up (and I have high hopes for the two new Sigma lenses).


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Feb 11, 2012 18:43 |  #71

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Feb 12, 2012 06:16 |  #72

I also replaced by 5D2 with a NEX based setup. However, I ended up going with a 5N since the 7 has problems with wide angle range-finder lenses. I'll most likely upgrade to a 7N if they ever come out with a new version of the 7 that addresses color shift/corner sharpness on the rangefinder wides.

Old: 5D2, 50/1.4, 24-105L
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No need to talk about portability since there really is no competition there. However, the IQ is absolutely stunning and has exceeded my expectations. I'd say the IQ from the Zeiss/5N combo is on par if not better than the 5D2 and I don't have to worry about missing focus since it's manual. The low-light performance is also excellent up to about ISO 2400. In short, I'm extremely happy with the new NEX system and can't wait to see whats next from Sony.

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Looks like I'm going with a NEX-7 and a Fuji X100 to replace my 5d2. Gonna put a Contax G 45/2 on the NEX most of the time and buy an old Nikon PC lens to to get some ridiculous stitching going. I hate the NEX lens lineup with a passion but maybe someday it'll catch up (and I have high hopes for the two new Sigma lenses).




  
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Feb 12, 2012 06:17 |  #73

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Gonna put a Contax G 45/2 on the NEX most of the time...

Do it! Best lenses I've ever used and work beautifully on NEX bodies. Worth spending a bit on a quality adapter to get a decent focusing ring/action :)


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Feb 14, 2012 01:12 |  #74

Sold my 5Dc and lenses to also get the nex 5 system. I just got my adapter for a pentax 50 1.7 lens and boy do I love shooting with this combo. Pics to follow soon


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Feb 14, 2012 01:45 |  #75

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I love it to bits, carry it with me everywhere. Makes pictures of everyday things look magical.
Occasionally I'd throw my canon lenses on it when I need too as well, it's just a very versatile camera, if you don't mind the manual focus that is.

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