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Feb 03, 2012 01:20 |  #1

Will these 2 mix well together. Right now I have a Canon 430exII and 2 yn460. I use one Yn460 for background set at 1/4 power. The other Yn in a softbox at 1/2 and the canon 1 stop lower than the YN in another softbox. With this set up I shoot at 7.1 @ iso100. Now if I was to add a AB800 and make that one my main I would have to shot at 1/16? and that would create a white balance problem?


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Feb 03, 2012 01:41 |  #2

yes, there will be a whitebalance problem since the color temperature of the speedlite gets cooler (slightly bluer) while the ab adds a pink cast at it's lowest setting.


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Feb 03, 2012 01:47 |  #3

c2thew wrote in post #13817222 (external link)
yes, there will be a whitebalance problem since the color temperature of the speedlite gets cooler (slightly bluer) while the ab adds a pink cast at it's lowest setting.

What power level do you think I would be in the Ab800 to achieve similar set up listed above.


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Feb 03, 2012 08:43 |  #4

c2thew wrote in post #13817222 (external link)
yes, there will be a whitebalance problem since the color temperature of the speedlite gets cooler (slightly bluer) while the ab adds a pink cast at it's lowest setting.

If we shoot RAW, with a grey card, is that an issue? I have seen many here (Phamster comes to mind) that seem to use AB800 for key & speedlights for hair/kicker etc.


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Feb 03, 2012 09:21 |  #5

Would you be able to use corrective gels on the speedlites to get them close to the AB?


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Feb 03, 2012 09:22 |  #6

White balance is good when there is one color temperature to correct for as the correction applies to the whole photo. The way around it would be to gel the speedlights closer to the strobe so that they all have about the same color again. Before we start whipping out our Rosco swatchbooks, the color shift from the AB at lower power seems inconsistent, so there will be no perfect match in every shot. Also, depending on the color accuracy demanded in the shot, it may not even be different enough to worry with. Sometimes people latch onto a flaw and make a mountain out if a mole hill.


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Feb 03, 2012 09:25 |  #7

what kind of background are you working with? Are you shooting white seemless or anything?


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Feb 03, 2012 09:27 |  #8

lazer-jock wrote in post #13818396 (external link)
White balance is good when there is one color temperature to correct for as the correction applies to the whole photo. The way around it would be to gel the speedlights closer to the strobe so that they all have about the same color again. Before we start whipping out our Rosco swatchbooks, the color shift from the AB at lower power seems inconsistent, so there will be no perfect match in every shot. Also, depending on the color accuracy demanded in the shot, it may not even be different enough to worry with. Sometimes people latch onto a flaw and make a mountain out if a mole hill.

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Feb 03, 2012 09:53 as a reply to  @ dedsen's post |  #9

I always shot raw. I also have gels for the speedlights but wouldn't know which one to use . I have white seamless and black muslim thinking about getting some type of grey seamless to gel. How much of a temperature change is it.


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Feb 03, 2012 13:07 |  #10

Easiest solution....stay off the low power setting and adjust distance to subject or aperture.

If less power is needed use an ND gel on the Alien Bee.


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Feb 03, 2012 19:28 |  #11

shankarhokie wrote in post #13818200 (external link)
If we shoot RAW, with a grey card, is that an issue? I have seen many here (Phamster comes to mind) that seem to use AB800 for key & speedlights for hair/kicker etc.

when shooting people or subjects, color temperature doesn't matter as much since the environment contributes to the final image.

if you are shooting a white seamless paper in a studio setting, then yo will be able to see the differences. Product photography is different then portraits.

yes a grey card will help, but two light sources at different color temperatures will still be evident when shooting seamless paper.


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