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Feb 02, 2012 21:00 |  #1

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AB 1600 Boomed above the Camera @ 1/8 power
AB 800x2 shooting seamless white BG both left and right with 7' reflector @ 1/4 power
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Almost no PP - Just color balance and increase of Black

If anyone can tell me why or how to get rid off the line on the right bottom of the picture will be great!!! - not in the PP but in the actual shooting. Wonder if my set up was wrong.....

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Feb 02, 2012 21:32 |  #2

Could be the position of the lights ?

How far is the tile board from the back ground? You are not getting enough light down low.

Try and lower the stand on the back ground lights so that it can also light the floor or move the tile board a little closer to the back ground.


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Feb 02, 2012 21:43 |  #3

Hi Yaamon.

Good to see another GTA people here in the fourm!

I have the set up shots at home but I am in the office right now and cant find the BTS shots.

Anyways, that is what I thought originally but both sides light were pretty even and I only see that line at right side of the camera.

I have DIY barn door which is white inside where the light is. Any change it might be the barn dooor?

The back boards were two and it was bit away from the BG but again only the right side from the camera have this effect.

Should I lower the angle of the lights more?

Thanks for looking!


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Feb 02, 2012 22:05 |  #4

Are the walls next to the BG the same reflectance on both sides?


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Feb 02, 2012 22:08 |  #5

windpig wrote in post #13816363 (external link)
Are the walls next to the BG the same reflectance on both sides?

Camera right side had no walls.

Camera left side had a wall but it wasnt all white..... but come to think of it, it could have reflected the light back to BG....

Thank you windpig! I never had guessed if the wall next would helped lighting in this sections.

I need to try this again.

Thanks again!


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Feb 03, 2012 14:52 |  #6

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Many have comments to pull back the lights out further back from BG.

Thanks for you comments all!

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Feb 03, 2012 15:06 |  #7

Man, I wish I had that much space to work with.


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Feb 03, 2012 15:36 |  #8

Nice working area. :)

The lights are too high , there will not be enough light to hit the tile board.

Since you have flags, I would position the lights and tile board closer to the back ground and re meter the back ground for 1 - 1 1/3+ over your main.

You also need some of the main key light to fall on the ground to help with the lighting.


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Feb 03, 2012 16:02 |  #9

Yaamon wrote in post #13820491 (external link)
Nice working area. :)

The lights are too high , there will not be enough light to hit the tile board.

Since you have flags, I would position the lights and tile board closer to the back ground and re meter the back ground for 1 - 1 1/3+ over your main.

You also need some of the main key light to fall on the ground to help with the lighting.

Awesome Thanks!

In this BTS, I have not put up my boom but I know what u are saying!

cheers!


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Feb 03, 2012 16:02 |  #10

windpig wrote in post #13820321 (external link)
Man, I wish I had that much space to work with.

It was awesome space for sure!

Cheers!


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Feb 03, 2012 17:11 |  #11

Hi - looking at your setup - I have a question - why is the seamless white paper pulled so far away from the stand?
I found better success with the BG lights (I used strobes) closer to the back ... and I only used one piece of white melamine hardboard ... my setup (and some sample shots) is here:
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I hope I am not hijacking your thread - I am also just new and learning seamless white BG

I used strobes on background and continuous white on the subject (next time I will set WB temp. a bit better - but for a first try?
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Feb 03, 2012 17:28 |  #12

philmony wrote in post #13820970 (external link)
Hi - looking at your setup - I have a question - why is the seamless white paper pulled so far away from the stand?
I found better success with the BG lights (I used strobes) closer to the back ... and I only used one piece of white melamine hardboard ... my setup (and some sample shots) is here:
http://www.flickr.com …6814140457/in/p​hotostream (external link)

I hope I am not hijacking your thread - I am also just new and learning seamless white BG

I used strobes on background and continuous white on the subject (next time I will set WB temp. a bit better - but for a first try?
Phil



The angle of the paper was flat to curves like this ___/, where your paper seems like this ___|.

I did this ___| in my very first high key shots and understood that ___/ gives better perspective, depends on your lens, as I was shooting.
In terms of the BG blowing out, either ways works fine.
- It also depends how bit of space you have as well.

I read in POTN, making a curves/angle on your BG is proper way to do it.

I am not the best to discuss the matter, serch around and other experts who can give you better explaination.

In this shoot, I had a gray line appeal on bottome right side of the photos at juctions.
- Either I need to pull the lights back or lower it to fix the problems.

Good luck.


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Feb 03, 2012 17:58 |  #13

cooly27 wrote in post #13821043 (external link)
The angle of the paper was flat to curves like this ___/, where your paper seems like this ___|.

I did this ___| in my very first high key shots and understood that ___/ gives better perspective, depends on your lens, as I was shooting.
In terms of the BG blowing out, either ways works fine.
- It also depends how bit of space you have as well.

I read in POTN, making a curves/angle on your BG is proper way to do it.

I am not the best to discuss the matter, serch around and other experts who can give you better explaination.

In this shoot, I had a gray line appeal on bottome right side of the photos at juctions.
- Either I need to pull the lights back or lower it to fix the problems.

Good luck.

thx - the reason I asked that question (it was sort of rhetorical) - that it might have been the cause of your line - as you can see in my shots (I only did 2 full length) - I don't have that problem of the line. :)

But (my opinion only) - I think your lights are too high and too far back - I see that they are barn-doored OK - but my thought was - pull the backdrop closer to the vertical and only use 1 sheet of melamine for the subject to pose on ...
anyways - hope you work it out :)
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Feb 03, 2012 18:09 |  #14

Having them further back can allow for more uniform coverage, both from a spread, but also a depth standpoint. With that in mind, having the lights a bit above center can allow a little downward feathering to cover the white seamless up to the tile board, along with the depth of the falloff to reach the curve of the paper.


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Feb 04, 2012 20:00 |  #15

This is the most informative series of posts I have found on shooting with white seamless. Hope it helps.

http://www.zarias.com …torial-part-1-gear-space/ (external link)


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