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POLL: "Would you switch to Nikon if 5DMK3 is a FUD?"
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Would you switch to Nikon if 5dmk3 is a DUD?

 
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Feb 08, 2012 05:19 |  #16

I personally think that Nikon have shot themselves in the foot. By releasing the D4 at £4,300 and then announcing the D800 at £2,400 with a better sensor, virtually all the same specs as the D4 apart from the frame rate and ISO. I know I wouldn't pay nearly twice as much for just the extra frames and ISO ability that I'm hardly ever going to use. I think the D4 might just become a millstone round Nikon's neck, and I desperately hope Canon don't make the same mistake with the 1Dx versus the 5D3.


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Feb 08, 2012 05:32 |  #17

modchild wrote in post #13847559 (external link)
I personally think that Nikon have shot themselves in the foot. By releasing the D4 at £4,300 and then announcing the D800 at £2,400 with a better sensor, virtually all the same specs as the D4 apart from the frame rate and ISO. I know I wouldn't pay nearly twice as much for just the extra frames and ISO ability that I'm hardly ever going to use. I think the D4 might just become a millstone round Nikon's neck, and I desperately hope Canon don't make the same mistake with the 1Dx versus the 5D3.

A mistake, really?

Is it not just that the feature set for an entry level pro camera is climbing?

If Canon are not competitive then they won't sell many units. Hardly a great victory.

Nikon have done everyone a favour by pushing the boundary. Whether Canon play the game or not we will all benefit.




  
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Feb 08, 2012 06:00 as a reply to  @ magwai's post |  #18

Nope

-I loathe the Nikon button layout
-if the 5D3 fails, the 5D2 will still be amazing
-1D series is always there; the life of Canon doesn't fall upon the shoulders of the 5D3


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Feb 08, 2012 06:08 |  #19

Many dont like 1D as its too big and 5D2 doesnt take great pics when its out of focus due to its piss poor AF system.


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Feb 08, 2012 07:53 as a reply to  @ post 13847520 |  #20

not only no, but hell no! ;)




  
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Feb 08, 2012 08:26 |  #21

Like many others, I would have to replace all my Canon gear to switch lines, so I would not change. I have taken some great shots with my 7D, and if the 5DMkIII is not suitable for my needs, I won't buy it. I will either stay with what I have or buy a MkII, which I have used. But I think there will be enough improvement in the MkIII to warrant my purchasing it. I don't need a ton of bells and whistles, and I always manually focus landscape shots.


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Feb 08, 2012 08:55 |  #22

I wouldn't switch, but I'd consider picking up a D800 and a couple of lenses. Me thinks we're going to have to wait for whatever follows the 5D3 to get something close to the D800.




  
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Feb 08, 2012 10:29 |  #23

I think a complementary question would be : would you switch to nikon if the 5d3 is a dud and you have traded your canon lenses for nikon ones?
Or.. Would you like the 5d3 to be exactly as D700/D800? (better af, better iso, etc)


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Feb 08, 2012 10:45 as a reply to  @ mihaii's post |  #24

I'll just stick with the 5DII if Canon doesn't offer what I consider to be an upgrade.

If I were shooting Nikon I'd be pissed right now.

Even if the D800 IQ was equal or better than the 5DII, I would be thinking, gee, if they can do that imagine how good an IQ I'd get with 1/2 those pixels.


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Feb 08, 2012 10:48 as a reply to  @ mihaii's post |  #25

I guess I really shouldn't vote, since I have no plans to even consider a 5DIII. Like someone else said, the 5DIII could be complete crap and it wouldn't make any difference to me.

The 7D is best suited for the vast majority of what I do, and the expense of a FF body for the small minority of other shots is just not worth it, given that I have taken great landscapes (the only thing I do where FF supposedly has an advantage) with crop bodies since I first purchased an XT. Perhaps if used 5DII bodies come down low enough some day, but otherwise I am doing fine.

I believe that if I were considering a FF body I would be very reluctant to sell everything to change to Nikon, regardless of the merits of the D800. Continually chasing the newest thing for fear that you might not be right on the bleeding edge at all times is folly.


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Feb 08, 2012 10:50 |  #26

Nope. I don't plan on buying a 5D III. If the 5D III is a dud, my 5D II isn't going to suddenly start taking crappy pictures or fall apart. My 5D II takes excellent pictures, even with it's outdated AF system.

Would I like a 1Dx? Sure, but not for the price. As others have mentioned, when the 1Dx comes out, the prices of the 1Ds III will surely drop. Maybe eventually I'd upgrade to a 1Ds III.


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Feb 08, 2012 10:51 |  #27

mihaii wrote in post #13848830 (external link)
I think a complementary question would be : would you switch to nikon if the 5d3 is a dud and you have traded your canon lenses for nikon ones?
Or.. Would you like the 5d3 to be exactly as D700/D800? (better af, better iso, etc)

A good question IMO. However, what is the definition of the 5DIII being a 'dud'? Not much better AF (even if IQ and functionality is improved significantly)? 36MP and worse IQ with super AF?


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Feb 08, 2012 10:55 |  #28

It is my understanding (I might be wrong here), that Canon lenses top Nikon lenses. Yes the Nikon bodies are nice, but which system takes the best photos?

I still think it's Canon.


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Feb 08, 2012 10:57 |  #29

YES

For me its NOT a matter of I will think/am thinking about it.

My reasons though, I suspect, are different than most. My position is that it is now Canon vs NIkon & Sony (NIkony?) If Canon does not come out with a large

30+ MP 5D III It means one thing: that is not what they have been working on over the last 5 years. Sony's resources coupled with Nikons expertise will be

IMPOSSIBLE for Canon to catch up with the next go round unless the release shows they were already on that path, its simple logistics. Remember it's not just

about putting out huge MP's you have to do it at a price the market can bear.

Great marketing convinced the 'artiste' that more MP was a bad thing. Then Sony came along and suddenly the reverse was true? This leads me to believe that

it became cost prohibitive to continue increasing MP's. Along comes Sony with it's deep pockets, a quick eenee meenee minee moe and they couple up with Nikon

(could have gone either way really). I can see the meeting now 'look, we're coming out with a 36 MP sensor do you guys want it or should we go talk to

Canon?'

I am looking at this from a buiness perspective not an 'I love Canon' perspective (even though I do).

This is not a unique conclusion. Anyone making an objective analysis would come to the same conclusion.

THis may make some upset but mark my words if Canon cannot keep up it does not bode well for them as an independent CAMERA BODY company (other than a niche

Mac-like existence).




  
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Feb 08, 2012 11:03 |  #30

I've often wonder how we managed to take all these incredible pictures over the years given the fact we don't have the latest and greatest technolgical crutch to lean on.


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