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Feb 05, 2012 03:07 |  #1

I'm not the best at converting pictures to B&W so I was wondering if you giys could tell me if these "work" Or what I can do to improve them?

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Feb 05, 2012 14:34 |  #2

Great pictures. I love #1!




  
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Feb 05, 2012 15:27 |  #3

I did a quick edit on the last shot for you....

I would start by altering the angle of the shot so her head isn't going down hill so much. You can do this by duplicating your original layer and then choosing "Free Transform", and them simply rotate the picture to a better angle. You will have to clone in the blanket around the edges and crop a little tighter so her arm will still be ad the edge of the page.

For the B&W, you may want to brighten up the skin tones some so they don't look muddy. I usually use a filter for mine, but I did a manual adjustment so I could share with you and give you a chance to try it on your own.

Assuming you know how to work the adjusment layers in photoshop? I do everything on it's own separate layer and not on my original image layer. This makes it easy to do changes/adjustments as you go along without comprimisng the integrity of your original file.

I'm just going to read off my layers palate from the bottom up, and you can give it a try and seee what you come up with.

1st was the transformation layer... then I cropped it to a 14x10 ratio. After cropping, I duplicated the transformed layer and did the cloning on the blanket.

Duplicated the cloning layer to make a layer for some dodging/burning of the eye area, but we'll go back to that after the exposure/contrast adjusments have been made.

1st adjustment layer = Brightness/Contrast. Sliders set at +5 for brightness, +25 for contrast

2nd adjustment layer = Levels, Sliders as follows: 1st on (shadow) 5 Second one (midtones) 1.27, last one (highlight) did not move, should read 255

3rd adjustment layer = Curves Numbers are approximate because I'm not really sure how to read it to you... but there are 2 points on the curve. Lower left side of the horizontal line comes in around Output roughly 13, Input roughly 17. Moving up the horizontal line, next numbers at output of 64 input at 62 (the point on the line lands roughly in the 3rd box from the bottom, 3rd from the left).

4th adjustment just adds a little warmth to the color.... Choose Color Balance adjusment layer and
move the top slider (cyan - red) to +8, and the bottom slider (yellow - blue) to about -12.

Now move back down to your duplicated original layer after the transformation. I called it eye enhance... Take your dodge tool (set opacity to about 10% only)... use a soft round brush and set the range to "highlights". just brush over the highlights in her eyes.. a teeny bit.

Now change the brush to the "burn" tool, same opacity, and set the range to shadows... make the brush little, and then go over each eyelash to darken them some.. then go over the outer edges of her iris, and any other areas that you would like to emphasize a little... I also do the lips when working on a B&W image, but change the range to midtones and make your brush bigger and make sure it's super soft...

Here is a screen shot of the layers palate, along with the finished image.

Hope this helps a little bit. :) HAPPY SUNDAY... (now back to my cleaning... lol..)


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Feb 05, 2012 16:03 |  #4

Kristy good job! Really nice of you to do this for her :)


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Feb 05, 2012 22:13 as a reply to  @ adamg5's post |  #5

OMG Kristy that looks great! thank you so much! I definitely need to try that. B/c I'm pretty bad at it I'll admit that I usually just convert it to b&w and do auto and then adjust it a little bit. But that's just amazing and makes it look so much better!




  
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Feb 06, 2012 09:13 |  #6

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Kristy good job! Really nice of you to do this for her :)

Thank you Adam..... :) Just trying to help a little bit.

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OMG Kristy that looks great! thank you so much! I definitely need to try that. B/c I'm pretty bad at it I'll admit that I usually just convert it to b&w and do auto and then adjust it a little bit. But that's just amazing and makes it look so much better!

You're welcome. I was hoping to maybe help you see different ways you can do a conversion. Once you start playing with it, you'll see how the different layers work and then you'll come up with your own style... but there is so much you can do, other than choosing 'grayscale'.

Oh I forgot to tell you, the very first thing I did was to change your "Image Mode" back to RGB from "Grayscale".

Just go to "Image> Mode> RGB" Otherwise some of the layers will not work for you.

Happy Monday! :) I hope you have fun playing around in Photoshop in your little spare pockets of time. :)


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Feb 06, 2012 16:12 as a reply to  @ Kristy's post |  #7

Ok so this was my "go at it"

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Feb 06, 2012 16:24 |  #8

That was REALLY nice Kristy.

Op - your second go at them look way better, but the dodging of the eyes is a little too much


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Feb 06, 2012 20:24 |  #9

Looks pretty good on my screen too.. Forgot to tell you.. NEVER dodge the whites of the eyes.. only the catchlights. :) Maybe just re-do that layer, or reduce the opacity of that layer if you haven't flattened it yet. ;)

Thanks for the kind words Canongrl. :)


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Feb 07, 2012 13:44 as a reply to  @ Kristy's post |  #10

Ok yea I did so I'll have to re-do it but no big deal :) thank you again for your help :)




  
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Feb 07, 2012 14:28 |  #11

Sorry..... I always save my PSD file with the layers intact, that way if I need to make an adjustment, it is easy peasy, and I don't have to start again from ground zero. Not sure what your file system looks like, but I have usually 4 copies... RAW, PSD, edited jpeg cropped to a large print, and a smaller web sized file.. totally overkill, I know... No wonder why my drives fill up so fast.  :p


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Feb 08, 2012 06:48 |  #12

The #3 picture is so adorable


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Feb 09, 2012 05:44 |  #13

Lelasmama....congrats on your edits, they look great.
Kristy, what a lovely thing you did by puting up that edit explanation. As someone who also has a lot to learn about PP, I thank you.


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Feb 09, 2012 18:51 |  #14

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Lelasmama....congrats on your edits, they look great.
Kristy, what a lovely thing you did by puting up that edit explanation. As someone who also has a lot to learn about PP, I thank you.

:) Thanks for you kind words.... I am always still learning new things, but it is nice when someone shares and you can walk away with a little more knowledge than you had before. :) Glad I had something useful to offer this time. :)


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Feb 09, 2012 20:29 as a reply to  @ Kristy's post |  #15

I think it's a lot what this business is about. Learning new things all the time one step at a time. The more advice you can get is wonderful! So when you have it and share with fellow clickers :) it's great! :)




  
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