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Feb 07, 2012 20:53 |  #46

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I still don't understand how you can go from

to telling me that anyone can do it in just a week, but I'm done with this..if you're so sure you can rival all the print shops with a 1000 dollar printer and a week's worth of research you didn't have time for then like I said, enjoy.


Have you even read my posts in this thread? If so, it's time to either re-read them or take a serious look at some reading comprehension classes.


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Feb 08, 2012 03:46 as a reply to  @ lewdog's post |  #47

Wasting your time, remember what it is like? He is 19 has a DSLR and already calls himself a photographer. Give him time to get his degree and spend sme time in the REAL World, after he has worked a few years running the print machine in Walgreens he will have an education!


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Feb 08, 2012 09:12 |  #48

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Do you know the difference between saturation, perceptual, relative, and absolute rendering intent, and how they effect your gamut conversion? What about black point compensation?

Yes.

And let's play nice here…


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Feb 08, 2012 09:14 |  #49
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you guys are ****ing full of yourselves..


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Feb 08, 2012 10:52 |  #50

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you guys are ****ing full of yourselves..

Well, lemme see...by your standards, since I'm 67 years old, I must know (67/19=3.53) three and a half times as much as you about photography. Then again, since I have a BS and two post graduate degrees, I must have three times as much education as you do, so that's 3 x 3.53 = 10.59 times as much as you know about photography, right?

So - what were you saying again?


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Feb 08, 2012 11:25 |  #51

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you guys are ****ing full of yourselves..

You are the only one bragging.


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Feb 10, 2012 19:47 |  #52

Shadow on the Door wrote in post #13843109 (external link)
Do you know the difference between saturation, perceptual, relative, and absolute rendering intent, and how they effect your gamut conversion? What about black point compensation?

I have used the IPF6100 for a couple years, then the 6300 now for a couple months. I have been exceptionally please with the results, except one thing: before I do my final print, I find that I have to run a proof sheet first as part of my workflow.

See, the problem is this: When simply printed, the print is anywhere from an exact match to the monitor, to something that is "close, but not quite". Since there is no way to know in advance whether it will be print off in saturation, or in brightness, or in contrast, I have created a proof sheet it a set of 16 copies of my shot - one "neutral" then three levels each of the following 5 variables: saturation, global brightness, contrasts, brightest white and blackest black. Then I pick the variable(s) that is/are an exact match for the monitor, make those adjustments to the full size print, and go from there.

I have always left the rendering intent and black point compensation at their default settings. Your post above suggests to me that knowledgeable use of those parameters could remove the proof sheet from my workflow.

I assume that rendering intent and black point compensation could be a rather esoteric discussion. I am not asking you to explain all you know, but I would like to ask for direction. Could you suggest some entry level reading, or websites, that could provide a usable working knowledge of the topic. Again, the point is better use of my equipment, rather than a career path, so I don't need the depth of education that you have, but a good usable foundation would be of great help.

Thanks in advance,

Rad

(PS - keep in mind that I didn't slam you for being 19. I am eager to learn from anyone who can teach me.)


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Feb 11, 2012 09:30 |  #53

Do you softproof?
You should be able to see the differences between perceptual and relative colorimetric intent.

On BPC: Simply put: Leave it checked when using Relative colorimetric. The tickbox has no effect whatsoever when using perceptual: http://www.gamutvision​.com/docs/blackpoint.h​tml (external link)

When softproofing it's a bit more complex, depending on wether you check "Simulate black ink": http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/in​dex.php?topic=21644 (external link)
(good link in post #1, post #3 explains how to set it when softproofing)


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