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compudaze
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Feb 15, 2012 12:46 |  #1

I'm looking for a replacement to my 55-250 for either longer reach or better IQ. I was originally looking at the 70-200 f/4L IS + 1.4x TC, but I'm still not sure if I would rather have more reach or not. After looking at the photo archives for these lenses I'm still undecided.

Are there any pros/cons to each of these lens?

Sigma DG 120-400mm f/4.5-5.6 OS HSM
Sigma DG 150-500mm f/5-6.3 OS HSM
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM
Sigma DG 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 OS HSM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM + Canon EF 1.4X Extender III

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Feb 15, 2012 12:55 |  #2

what about the Sigma 120-300 2.8 os




  
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Feb 15, 2012 13:03 |  #3

100-400 all the way.




  
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Feb 15, 2012 13:04 |  #4

I have the 70-200 f/4L and with a TC needed a lot of light. This hurt a bit when trying to keep down motion blur of critters and birds in the evening or early morning or just in the shade. I got the canon 100-400 and have had a great time with it. Still a slower lens but I find I don't have to carry the tripod as much with it. I am still learning but I love it so far.


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Feb 15, 2012 13:10 |  #5

dingdongnz wrote in post #13902855 (external link)
what about the Sigma 120-300 2.8 os

That's a bit over my price range, although the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS HSM might come into play.


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Feb 15, 2012 13:10 |  #6

Though you are the only one who should make that final decision, there is no Tele lens in the world that give you the range of Bigma 50-500 and non gives you sharpness and nice color render of Canon L 100-400mm.


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Feb 15, 2012 13:11 |  #7

A Sigma 150-500mm optical stabilizer lens (external link) generates images that look like this.

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Feb 15, 2012 13:13 |  #8

It's hard to make a recommendation when you seem unsure of your priorities. What are you planning to shoot and have you found the long end of the 55-250 limiting?

If you are reach-limited at 250, the 100-400 would be my choice. If you want a higher quality lens with better IQ with comparable reach, go for the 70-200.




  
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Feb 15, 2012 13:23 |  #9

compudaze wrote in post #13902808 (external link)
I'm looking for a replacement to my 55-250 for either longer reach or better IQ. I was originally looking at the 70-200 f/4L IS + 1.4x TC, but I'm still not sure if I would rather have more reach or not. After looking at the photo archives for these lenses I'm still undecided.

Are there any pros/cons to each of these lens?

Sigma DG 120-400mm f/4.5-5.6 OS HSM
Sigma DG 150-500mm f/5-6.3 OS HSM
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM
Sigma DG 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 OS HSM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM + Canon EF 1.4X Extender III

Thanks!

lots of pros and cons!
Do a search here and google, obvious differences in focal ranges, some are considered sharper with better AF and of course there are price differences

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=4​&APIComp=0 (external link)

I just upgraded from the 55-250 to the 100-400 last week - nice

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Feb 15, 2012 13:34 |  #10

figure out if you want more reach or not...if you're happy with the reach of the 55-250...then just go for the 70-200f4IS...if you want more reach, either the 100-400L, or 50-500OS are the better choices...the 150-500OS is a good choice if you want to save 1/3 the price of the other two...

what do you plan on using the lens for?


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Feb 15, 2012 13:58 |  #11

There are examples of shots with all those lenses in the Lens Sample Image Archive sub-forum attached to this forum.

There are also some comparisons of them on peoples' websites. So you might want to do a Google search. I doubt many people here or anywhere actually have solid hands-on experience with all the lenses you're considering, to give you any really meaningful comparison. I recall seeing a good site that looked at the Canon 100-400, Siggy 120-400 OS and 150-500 OS and 50-500 OS specifically. The image quality of all four came down pretty close... The Sigma's were a little lower contrast at their longest focal lengths, but that's pretty easily correctible in post-production.

It might come more down to price and other features, more than IQ.

The Canon is the most expensive of the four. The "Bigma' 50-500 is close and the second most expensive. The 150-500 and 120-400 are the least expensive, just over and just about $1000 respectively.

The Canon is a push-pull lens design, reasonably compact (77mm filter), typical Canon L-series tele off-white color. All three Sigmas are two ring designs and black. The "Bigma" is called that for a reason. The 150-500mm is also pretty large, 86mm filter if memory serves. The 120-400 is close to the size of the Canon, uses a 77mm filter.

All have image stabilization. The Canon lens is the oldest of the bunch by a decade or so and has one of the more primitive forms of Canon IS. It doesn't "auto sense" when it's on a tripod, needs to be turned off manually. A lot of people feel the Sigma OS is superior, good for a stop or two more assistance.

All have tripod mounting rings.

All have USM or HSM.

All are f5.6 or f6.3... so essentially "daylight" tele-zooms.

Oh, and the 70-200/4 IS with a good 1.4X and a tripod mounting ring (sold separately) would probably come pretty close in image quality, but of course won't have anywhere near the same reach (280mm max). And of course it's f5.6 by the time you combine the lens and TC. This combo would be the most expensive option of all, I'm fairly certain.

Really, in all cases you could buy the lens, shoot with it for a while and see if you like it... Enjoy it and keep it... Or sell it for most of what you paid if you don't care for it. They all hold their value pretty well.


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Feb 15, 2012 14:05 |  #12

amfoto1 wrote in post #13903212 (external link)
I recall seeing a good site that looked at the Canon 100-400, Siggy 120-400 OS and 150-500 OS and 50-500 OS specifically

this one compares all except the 50-500mm is the original non OS version
http://www.juzaphoto.c​om/article.php?l=en&ar​ticle=50 (external link)

same site comparison to the 100-400L and 50-500OS
http://www.juzaphoto.c​om/article.php?l=en&ar​ticle=54 (external link)


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Feb 15, 2012 15:39 |  #13

Not on your list but I love the 35-350mm Canon https://photography-on-the.net …2&highlight=35-350&page=2 http://www.fredmiranda​.com …howproduct.php?​product=15 (external link)
Around $1000 used and still impresses. the 35-350mm range is hard to beat


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Feb 15, 2012 15:43 |  #14

Well, I've had 3 of them so here's thoughts on them:

Sigma 120-400 - AF seems pretty snappy and the OS is super. Despite my one issue, which I'll discuss in a second, it would be my favorite of the bunch.

Sigma 150-500 - You would think that it would retain the same apertures as the 120-400 over the same range, but alas, I did not find that to be the case. 6.3 starts somewhere around 350, not 400. OS works well, but doesn't seem to be as good on this lens as the 120-400. Mine had some sharpness issues that were partially rectified by Sigma but still not to my liking. AF is quick but not as quick as the other too due to the longer range.

Canon 100-400 - warmer colors, pretty even in my experience with the 120-400 but a little wider. Biggest personal issue is the push/pull design (some love it, some hate it) and the IS system is older and somewhat useless in my opinion. Based on my experiences with 2 copies, I cannot say it is definitively sharper than the 120-400 nor vice versa.

Here's my issue with the Sigmas - no limiter switch. Sounds trivial, but when you start missing shots because you lose focus for a second and have to wait while it reracks, you'll understand.

I think the build on all three is pretty good quality.

That said, in that range and considering all factors, I would still pick the the 120-400. Colors can be warmed in PP, if you deem it necessary, OS is better, sharpness is a toss up, build is pretty equal, warranty period is longer if bought new and it is cheaper. I can't justify the $400-500 premium for the 100-400.

I would shy away from the 70-200/tc combo as I think you are gonna end up wanting more reach given that it is only slightly longer than what you already have (250mm vs. 280mm).


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Feb 15, 2012 15:58 |  #15

Only had the Sigma 150-500 from your selection and as said what are your priorities. Both the Sigma 150-500 and 50-500 os have an awesome stabilization system far better thatn the Canon 100-400. The Canon is lighter though. IQ very little between them. Had my 150-500 for three happy years now replaced with the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 OS


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