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Why most of you will end up buying the new 24-70 II

 
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Feb 17, 2012 17:58 as a reply to  @ post 13914273 |  #61

Haha ... so true.

I bet 70+% of the whiners and haters will be picking one up eventually, particularly those who are angered by the lack of IS. ;)




  
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Feb 17, 2012 19:11 as a reply to  @ post 13914573 |  #62

Opie has called out the inherently weak-willed gear head in me. Even though I don't shoot with a normal zoom, the sirens call of the new tech is alluring! The 70-200 II claimed me as a victim, but I needed something in the tele range. In this case, my 24 and 50 primes serve me perfectly fine. Must resist... Must resist. /takes swig of whiskey


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Feb 17, 2012 19:15 |  #63

hyolee wrote in post #13916883 (external link)
Haha ... so true.

I bet 70+% of the whiners and haters will be picking one up eventually, particularly those who are angered by the lack of IS. ;)

Not a chance in hell


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Feb 17, 2012 19:17 |  #64

i will not be buying it simply because for the price and what i do its not worth it. and i am strong enough to hold a 24-70 mkI without getting tired but that doesnt mean im buying the old one either. and for those that say better gear takes better photos you are making false assumptions. if i spend tons of money buying cinema gear and shooting real 35mm film rather than digital will my movies be better? No they will not and i dont falsely claim that you cant have the best quality video unless you shoot with panavision glass. you dont have to have the best to produce good content. some people will buy it and other might upgrade to it and some have too much money and will buy it and not benefit from its improvements over the mkI. but in the end why is other people spending money important? i dont see why concerning yourself with who is buying this new lens affects everyone else.




  
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Feb 17, 2012 19:57 |  #65

I had the 70-200MI & I bought the MII after a month I sold the MI. Since I had the MII I don't use 135L even under low light conditions. The IS and low ISO makes the F2.0 of the 2
135L not as important any more but I'm not selling the 135L. However, I can't say the same about the new 24-70 without the IS. W/O IS a prime with an F1.2-2.0 will make a big difference even if the sharpness is about the same on good light conditions. For studio work the 24-70L is a work horse so I know I will buy the new version eventually.


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Feb 17, 2012 20:09 |  #66

i bought my mk1 copy a few years ago for less than 1K...no way in hell that the mk2 is worth more than double it.


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Feb 17, 2012 20:11 |  #67

I have mk I. And.. I don't think it sharp enough (Ok.. I admit I compare it to prime or 70-200 4 IS).

And.. I've wait this mk II. But, looking at the price, I don't want it anymore. I will upgrade my 70-200 ti mk II instead.

the price difference is... too much.


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Feb 17, 2012 20:25 |  #68

I don't think so. I have my focal lengths pretty well covered at least for my requirements at the present time.( I had to put in a qualifier)


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Feb 19, 2012 10:43 as a reply to  @ Joe Ravenstein's post |  #69

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To be fair, no one has a 24-70 2.8 with IS. One has now been announced with no release date, or any indication of quality, but that's about it.

My guess is it's a hard problem to solve. Trying to make the IQ better then the Mk I, add IS, and make it affordable enough for people to buy, has got to be challenging.

Well, the 24-105IS has been rather popular since its launch.
And to release not-one-but-two(!) wide angle lenses with IS, but not the new 24-70 seems like a bit of shortsightedness, IMHO.
We'll see...............
But now Tamron have announced a 24-70 with their version of IS, does anyone think Sigma won't do the same in the not-too-distant future?
Nikon? Sony? Pentax?
It won't take long, before there's a lovely choice of stabilised mid-range zooms on the market.
Canon are going to look a bit daft, methinks!

And though I could get a 24-70 (MkI or MkII), at that price-point, when my clients really can't tell anyway, I think I'll wait a bit longer.....
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Feb 19, 2012 10:48 |  #70

It won't take long, before there's a lovely choice of stabilised mid-range zooms on the market.
Canon are going to look a bit daft, methinks!

Na, look at the sigma primes which are much cheaper then Canons and Canon still sells lots of 50L's and 85L's.


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Feb 19, 2012 10:56 |  #71

Tommydigi wrote in post #13924234 (external link)
Na, look at the sigma primes which are much cheaper then Canons and Canon still sells lots of 50L's and 85L's.

I'll have to disagree with you on that.
Canon sell 50Ls, and 85Ls, but not "lots".
Those are highly specialised lenses, and not really for amateurs due to the inherent problems with shallow DoF.
The Sigma 30/50/85 have become very good sellers (here in Japan) due to a lack of gear-snobbery among the locals.

And price really does matter, too.

AND, all the pros I work with (at wedding chapels in southern Japan) have NO issue with branding. The Nikon crews and Canon crews all use Tamrons and Sigmas alongside their EF24-105s, EF24-70s and EF70-200s (and Nikon equivalents).

I've not asked yet, but I think they're going to wait for Tamron (and Sigma?) before anyone changes/adds lenses.

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Feb 19, 2012 11:28 |  #72

Those are highly specialised lenses, and not really for amateurs due to the inherent problems with shallow DoF.

Would never know that after visiting this forum :-}

I agree with you that many pros don't always buy the most expensive stuff but I still see Canon selling a lot of 24-70 II's. Its really the same thing, right now you have the Sigma 24-7 and Tamron 28-75 and while pretty popular many will move up to the more expensive 24-70L. I am sure the new off brand offerings will cost more as will Canons.


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Feb 19, 2012 11:40 as a reply to  @ Tommydigi's post |  #73

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fair enough.

We'll agree to disagree, though I feel that Canon have perhaps "decided" to keep IS out of the new 24-70 in order to protect sales of the 24-105L.

But, as I said before, I'll wait to see what the Tamron is like, and if Sigma throw out a new 24-70OS.

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Feb 19, 2012 11:47 |  #74
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skygod44 wrote in post #13924456 (external link)
We'll agree to disagree, though I feel that Canon have perhaps "decided" to keep IS out of the new 24-70 in order to protect sales of the 24-105L.

Knowing Canons way of thinking (nerfing some products to protect others), yes it could be.

But I really hope this is not the case. Dumbest reason ever i.m.o.


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Feb 19, 2012 12:10 as a reply to  @ Ricku's post |  #75

First things:

Im glad lenses are getting upgrades in the sharpness department. Albeit slowly, its happening.


I used to crave the 70-200 F2.8.... THEN I somehow got the 70-200 IS2...and I don't use it nearly as much.


I don't have it in the cards to buy the new 24-70 for about 3 years. By then, ill probably be looking for a used D4 anyway :P


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