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Feb 20, 2012 12:06 |  #16

17-40 or a 24-105

honestly it depends on what you are recording video of. just saying everyday use and video doesnt help.




  
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Feb 20, 2012 12:17 |  #17

I really like my 24-105 on a crop body, it goes from standard to moderately tele and is very usefull for portraits and walk-around outside. I bought it when I only had a 350D (XT) and will keep it. The IS really is nice and it feels great. F4.0 is somewhat limiting for moving objects in dim light, but a faster lens will also give a thinner DOF wich makes focus hard to nail under those circumstances.
The 24-105 might be a little heavy on a rebel series body, but if you get yourself a battery grip you will have a better balance.
Keep your 18-55 for the reach from 18-24 and you will have some spare reach on the wide side.




  
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Feb 20, 2012 12:22 |  #18

sticknpuck wrote in post #13929469 (external link)
Great help... I'm sorry but there are way to many judges on these boards who think that users must somehow justify through skill or need to upgrade to better glass. Let's face it the kit lens is s**t and anybody who has tried a 17-55 2.8 in comparison will tell you so.

Sorry for the rant...

As well you should be.

My intention is simple and far from malicious or condescending as you have suggested.

Too many people think that buying new equipment will somehow make them a better photographer. They very often get this idea from these forums or from marketing materials. By asking a user to post some examples of his/her work, it may be possible to offer suggestions which can help the user become a better photographer and thus better utilize the equipment they have. Because digital photography has become so "easy", it's caused may people to shoot without understanding the basic tenants of photography such as composure, exposure, etc. Learning even a little about these foundational principals can cause the user to become significantly more pleased with their work.

Very recently, a young woman won a national photography contest with an older Rebel camera beating thousands of professionals who have the latest and greatest professional level bodies and glass. There's a reason for that.

Here's one video showing that it isn't the equipment....

http://www.youtube.com …bedded&v=wX76k-chflo#t=0s (external link)

We live in a world where the promise of better performance through newer or more expensive equipment drives everything...especiall​y the digital camera market. Just look a the megapixel race. We were shooting fantastic images with 2 mp DSLRs, but the marketing types can't sell cameras if everyone is satisfied with what they have so....

I will admit that my L glass lenses produce images that have slightly better color saturation and contrast, but they do not make me a better photographer. Study and practice do that.


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Feb 20, 2012 13:04 |  #19

sticknpuck wrote in post #13929469 (external link)
Great help... I'm sorry but there are way to many judges on these boards who think that users must somehow justify through skill or need to upgrade to better glass. Let's face it the kit lens is s**t and anybody who has tried a 17-55 2.8 in comparison will tell you so.

Sorry for the rant...

OP, I second mtimber's suggestion about the 17-55. Pretty fast, has IS which really helps for video and constant manual focus which can be a big help also.

The rant and the honesty are more then welcome
I'm looking at the 17 55 it looks like a keeper but I can't figure for the price of 1040$$ why that lens ain't a L lens...the kit lens hasn't done that bad for me ether it has zooom it gives me range from close to far but its not even close to sharp or bright as my 50mm1/8 but then again they both have they advantages


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Feb 20, 2012 13:06 |  #20

pkilla wrote in post #13929958 (external link)
The rant and the honesty are more then welcome
I'm looking at the 17 55 it looks like a keeper but I can't figure for the price of 1040$$ why that lens ain't a L lens...the kit lens hasn't done that bad for me ether it has zooom it gives me range from close to far but its not even close to sharp or bright as my 50mm1/8 but then again they both have they advantages

That question has been asked many times before.

I think the general consensus is that this lens was designed as a flagship lens for the crop format.

An L lens by definition has to fit on full frame as well as crop.


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Feb 20, 2012 13:23 |  #21

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Feb 20, 2012 13:28 |  #22

Brian_R wrote in post #13929660 (external link)
17-40 or a 24-105

honestly it depends on what you are recording video of. just saying everyday use and video doesnt help.

I'm trying to record hip hop rap music
My kids and everyday life at a very high level hopefully this makes things more clearer


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Feb 20, 2012 13:32 |  #23

@av8r very well said


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Feb 20, 2012 15:49 |  #24

av8r wrote in post #13929738 (external link)
Very recently, a young woman won a national photography contest with an older Rebel camera beating thousands of professionals who have the latest and greatest professional level bodies and glass. There's a reason for that.

I will admit that my L glass lenses produce images that have slightly better color saturation and contrast, but they do not make me a better photographer. Study and practice do that.

Well said indeed. bw!


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Feb 20, 2012 15:58 as a reply to  @ BrickR's post |  #25

Philip Bloom has the best description of lenses for dslr shooting i've seen...

http://philipbloom.net …8/20/which-lenses-to-buy/ (external link)


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Feb 20, 2012 16:12 |  #26

av8r wrote in post #13929738 (external link)
As well you should be.

My intention is simple and far from malicious or condescending as you have suggested.

Too many people think that buying new equipment will somehow make them a better photographer. They very often get this idea from these forums or from marketing materials. By asking a user to post some examples of his/her work, it may be possible to offer suggestions which can help the user become a better photographer and thus better utilize the equipment they have. Because digital photography has become so "easy", it's caused may people to shoot without understanding the basic tenants of photography such as composure, exposure, etc. Learning even a little about these foundational principals can cause the user to become significantly more pleased with their work.

Very recently, a young woman won a national photography contest with an older Rebel camera beating thousands of professionals who have the latest and greatest professional level bodies and glass. There's a reason for that.

Here's one video showing that it isn't the equipment....

http://www.youtube.com …bedded&v=wX76k-chflo#t=0s (external link)

We live in a world where the promise of better performance through newer or more expensive equipment drives everything...especiall​y the digital camera market. Just look a the megapixel race. We were shooting fantastic images with 2 mp DSLRs, but the marketing types can't sell cameras if everyone is satisfied with what they have so....

I will admit that my L glass lenses produce images that have slightly better color saturation and contrast, but they do not make me a better photographer. Study and practice do that.

Sorry, but I disagree with some of that.

Person A, who is not a as good a photographer then Person B, will never be with better equipment, but Person A can take better photos with better equipment then Person A with worse equipment. Same applies for Person B.

Equipment is not a substitute for study and practice, but it's also not meaningless, especially to a new photographer.

Imagine what that young woman's photo would have looked like if she had your equipment?

And that video shows that it is equipment. While I am never going to be remotely as good as Chase, with high end equipment I would have left that shoot with better photos then he did.

Of course that's an absurd setup, as no one would expect anyone to shoot with such horrible equipment. With an S95, he would have outdone me easily.


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Feb 20, 2012 16:17 |  #27

Before you plunk down a wad of cash rent one to see if the lens fits your needs.


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Feb 20, 2012 16:33 |  #28

I think the 24-105 IS is a pretty awesome lens for shooting video. Great range, and the IS is nice when you're shooting handheld on the move.

Decent price, too.


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Feb 20, 2012 17:28 |  #29

camera dude wrote in post #13930873 (external link)
Philip Bloom has the best description of lenses for dslr shooting i've seen...

http://philipbloom.net …8/20/which-lenses-to-buy/ (external link)

Excellent link. Should answer most of the OP's questions.


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Feb 20, 2012 18:26 |  #30

sticknpuck wrote in post #13931363 (external link)
Excellent link. Should answer most of the OP's questions.

Because of the content, or because that video was shot with a 24-105? :)


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