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Have the listing rules in the "sell" section changed?

 
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Feb 18, 2012 04:55 |  #31

Joe.Kelley wrote in post #13905672 (external link)
it would be nice if locked threads were moved to a sold list then all open threads would be for sale and easier for buyers to see what is available and still be able to see what prices things went for on the other list. with that system no need to relist

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Feb 20, 2012 15:48 |  #32

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I also think there are some people on these forums who couldn't take a photo to save their life (and i wonder if they even care about being able to), but they are here none the less, so they take it upon themselves to police others, and they report every violation they see.

I don't go looking for mutiple posts, but I have no issue at all reporting someone that is flooding the forum with the same ads. That is part of why your stuff only makes the front page for a few hours.


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Feb 21, 2012 12:52 |  #33

Joe.Kelley wrote in post #13905672 (external link)
it would be nice if locked threads were moved to a sold list then all open threads would be for sale and easier for buyers to see what is available and still be able to see what prices things went for on the other list. with that system no need to relist


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I would love to see this! I hate searching for items and getting pages of sold/locked threads, and it would keep the items for sale on the first page longer. Now if only people would lock the dang threads when they should! :(


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Feb 21, 2012 22:58 |  #34

hfgarris wrote in post #13909114 (external link)
Or, someone posts "I will take it" in the thread ... then PMs you with a low-ball offer. The post effectively shuts off all interest from other possible buyers.

If people set up their PM account to email them immediately, there is no need for the endless "YGPM" posts for buyers who simply wish to haggle over the price. The seller will be notified whenever you submit a PM to them, no need to additionally announce it in the thread. If you reach an agreement, then post a message in the thread.

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I hate that stuff. When I was just buying on here I never realized how annoying that was but then on my sale posts, it's darn near every time. Any "popular" item is almost always going to generate a number of PMs and replies before falling off the front page... and all the PMs will usually be ridiculously low offers. The typical format seems to be " I found some obscure ad where someone is selling their beat-up camera for $200, so your mint condition one is obviously priced way too high at $400. Because of that, I'll take yours for $150, let me know your paypal address immediately and I'll send it" /sarcasm

Once the post has been up longer, there aren't as many replies but those who do reply days later are usually serious buyers who found the post in a search instead of the low-balling trollers who stay on the front page.

It gets frustrating at times but as long as I don't get discouraged and leave the ads up, I've had a number of sales happen on 2-3 week old posts though...


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Feb 21, 2012 23:23 |  #35

Lowballer are part of the package on these boards. You will have one who only buys and looks for people desperate or dumb enough to accept a lowball offer and then another who resells the equipment at 95% of retail. Then you have those who load up at the Canon store on refurbs when they have specials and then sell the items later without noting the fact that they are refurbs. No wonder some of them don't like taking PayPal.


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Feb 22, 2012 02:22 as a reply to  @ K6AZ's post |  #36

I post in For Sale threads with "I'll take it." when I am replying with a PM to purchase the item AT the sellers price. I post a "PM sent" message in a FS thread when the seller has a OBO or uncertain set price and I want to make a reasonable offer. I also post "PM sent" in threads when I want to "mark" the thread - so that it appears in my User CP under Subscribed Threads for the purpose of feedback later.

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Feb 22, 2012 02:53 |  #37

Hillbille wrote in post #13941805 (external link)
I post in For Sale threads with "I'll take it." when I am replying with a PM to purchase the item AT the sellers price. I post a "PM sent" message in a FS thread when the seller has a OBO or uncertain set price and I want to make a reasonable offer. I also post "PM sent" in threads when I want to "mark" the thread - so that it appears in my User CP under Subscribed Threads for the purpose of feedback later.

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Feb 22, 2012 10:46 |  #38

Hillbille wrote in post #13941805 (external link)
I post in For Sale threads with "I'll take it." when I am replying with a PM to purchase the item AT the sellers price. I post a "PM sent" message in a FS thread when the seller has a OBO or uncertain set price and I want to make a reasonable offer. I also post "PM sent" in threads when I want to "mark" the thread - so that it appears in my User CP under Subscribed Threads for the purpose of feedback later.

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just a reminder: :)

If you look under the "Thread Tools" pull-down list, you can simply select "Subscribe to this thread" without the need to actually post something in the thread.

Activity in that thread will then appear in the list when you select the "User CP" heading.

Then the seller doesn't have to keep posting "all PMs replied to" to let other buyers know that a sale isn't pending.


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Feb 22, 2012 12:12 |  #39

hfgarris wrote in post #13943544 (external link)
just a reminder: :)

If you look under the "Thread Tools" pull-down list, you can simply select "Subscribe to this thread" without the need to actually post something in the thread.

Activity in that thread will then appear in the list when you select the "User CP" heading.

Then the seller doesn't have to keep posting "all PMs replied to" to let other buyers know that a sale isn't pending.

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I assume that an item is for sale until it is closed or marked sold. I have purchased many items after 4 or 5 folks have said "PM sent" or "I will take it", so don't assume anything is sold unless told by the seller.


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Feb 22, 2012 13:11 |  #40

Best is to send e-mail or PM and find out. I don't know what "PM sent" or "I'll take it" does? usually people who do not send you a PM or e-mail do not buy anything.


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Feb 22, 2012 13:15 |  #41

hfgarris wrote in post #13943544 (external link)
just a reminder: :)

If you look under the "Thread Tools" pull-down list, you can simply select "Subscribe to this thread" without the need to actually post something in the thread.

Activity in that thread will then appear in the list when you select the "User CP" heading.

Then the seller doesn't have to keep posting "all PMs replied to" to let other buyers know that a sale isn't pending.


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Yes, I know about subscribing to threads. LOL!! This (POTN) is only 1 of about 8 very active forums I belong to and post to regularly. Most all forums are similar. Features and options are usually pretty close in the higher end forums because the owners use higher end software or hire programmers to mod their software to add features found at other "popular" sites.

Many of the "suggestions" in this thread are perfect aids to scammers. If no posting in for sale threads were allowed - how nice for scammers as then the item they are advertising could be sold multiple times in a few days without ANYONE knowing because all the activity would be hidden in PM messages or off site e-mails. Some things are inconvenient but necessary. Sellers that DO respond to posts and also post "PM's responded to." boost my confidence. Also a seller that will post "PM's responded to and the item is STILL for sale!" show me that they are attentive AND boost my confidence in their ad. Simple little things make a big difference - for me at least.

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Feb 22, 2012 13:37 |  #42

I agree with that, at a minimum I think folks should post when payment has been made, that way others know and don't send it again. I purchased a bag and posted that I sent payment, well another member responded that he did too. After going around a bit, the seller had two bags and since he got two offers, he sold them both. That is only one situation that worked out for everyone, but it could have gone another way.

Hillbille wrote in post #13944516 (external link)
Yes, I know about subscribing to threads. LOL!! This (POTN) is only 1 of about 8 very active forums I belong to and post to regularly. Most all forums are similar. Features and options are usually pretty close in the higher end forums because the owners use higher end software or hire programmers to mod their software to add features found at other "popular" sites.

Many of the "suggestions" in this thread are perfect aids to scammers. If no posting in for sale threads were allowed - how nice for scammers as then the item they are advertising could be sold multiple times in a few days without ANYONE knowing because all the activity would be hidden in PM messages or off site e-mails. Some things are inconvenient but necessary. Sellers that DO respond to posts and also post "PM's responded to." boost my confidence. Also a seller that will post "PM's responded to and the item is STILL for sale!" show me that they are attentive AND boost my confidence in their ad. Simple little things make a big difference - for me at least.

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Feb 22, 2012 13:40 |  #43

alpha_1976 wrote in post #13944487 (external link)
Best is to send e-mail or PM and find out. I don't know what "PM sent" or "I'll take it" does? usually people who do not send you a PM or e-mail do not buy anything.

If I ever did it I got out of "PM sent" and such. These days I only post if I have a question and one I think will be helpful to others looking at the FS post.


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Feb 22, 2012 13:48 |  #44

duane0524 wrote in post #13944634 (external link)
I agree with that, at a minimum I think folks should post when payment has been made, that way others know and don't send it again. I purchased a bag and posted that I sent payment, well another member responded that he did too. After going around a bit, the seller had two bags and since he got two offers, he sold them both. That is only one situation that worked out for everyone, but it could have gone another way.

I agree about the "payment sent" post. It does help prevent scamming. Not sure how all the "YGPM" posts really help though. It's actually not so bad here where the thread does't get bumped. On other forums where that does occur it is much more annoying.


  
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Feb 22, 2012 14:00 |  #45

mpix345 wrote in post #13944690 (external link)
I agree about the "payment sent" post. It does help prevent scamming. Not sure how all the "YGPM" posts really help though. It's actually not so bad here where the thread does't get bumped. On other forums where that does occur it is much more annoying.

It encourages people to post things for good prices.


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