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Feb 21, 2012 17:23 |  #46

DreDaze wrote in post #13938766 (external link)
then buy from a retailer that doesn't allow returns...

ding ding ding...


OP is doing nothing wrong, in fact, I appreciate the comparisons. Return policies....that's what they are there for.


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Feb 21, 2012 17:38 |  #47

OP, one week and only few crap shots? Sorry, but time and effort well wasted.
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Feb 21, 2012 17:44 |  #48

aaronb wrote in post #13938788 (external link)
wow.
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Yeah, that comment sort of shows your ignorance on how common that is. A piece of dog or cat hair is easily inhaled off a piece of clothing when someone tries it on. In some cases this sends people to the ER. This obviously isn't as big of a problem with lenses, but in some cases there are still issues. A family member has a severe allergy to black mold. If she gets near it, she has seizures. She avoids used book stores, garage sales, laundromats, etc. She's had problems with clothes that she later found out were returned.

There are a lot of folks out there with all kinds of issues that may seem strange to the regular SUV-driving male with gelled hair and a Burger King Whopper in his mouth. Severe allergies are common. Remember, not everyone wants what has been in your house.


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Feb 21, 2012 17:53 |  #49

I think this is the weirdest thread I've come across here and there have been some doozies.

OP - Good on ya for starting the thread and trying to help the rest of the community with your info. Too bad it was dragged into the ground. :confused:


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Feb 21, 2012 18:23 |  #50

Numenorean wrote in post #13936823 (external link)
You can't return something as new if you've used it. It's no longer new.

I think we should concentrate on the title which is a comparison.

Also, B&H's return policy clearly states they will accept return ... "If, for whatever reason, you are dissatisfied with your purchase, you can return it" - LENS not being as good as other lens sure qualify as "dissatisfied". If B&H try to sell a "RETURNED PRODUCT" as new, that is between B&H and the purchaser - have nothing to do with OP who is not doing anything wrong.

I for one am grateful someone took time and effort to shell out $$ to do this comparison.




  
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Feb 21, 2012 18:27 |  #51

Mike55 wrote in post #13938884 (external link)
Yeah, that comment sort of shows your ignorance on how common that is. A piece of dog or cat hair is easily inhaled off a piece of clothing when someone tries it on. In some cases this sends people to the ER. This obviously isn't as big of a problem with lenses, but in some cases there are still issues. A family member has a severe allergy to black mold. If she gets near it, she has seizures. She avoids used book stores, garage sales, laundromats, etc. She's had problems with clothes that she later found out were returned.

There are a lot of folks out there with all kinds of issues that may seem strange to the regular SUV-driving male with gelled hair and a Burger King Whopper in his mouth. Severe allergies are common. Remember, not everyone wants what has been in your house.

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Feb 21, 2012 18:30 |  #52

I'll make sure to tell my cousin you think her serious medical condition is stupid.


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Feb 21, 2012 18:42 |  #53

Mystwalker wrote in post #13939084 (external link)
I think we should concentrate on the title which is a comparison.

Also, B&H's return policy clearly states they will accept return ... "If, for whatever reason, you are dissatisfied with your purchase, you can return it" - LENS not being as good as other lens sure qualify as "dissatisfied". If B&H try to sell a "RETURNED PRODUCT" as new, that is between B&H and the purchaser - have nothing to do with OP who is not doing anything wrong.

I for one am grateful someone took time and effort to shell out $$ to do this comparison.

Adorama has the exact same policy




  
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Feb 21, 2012 19:03 |  #54

So I am guessing most people wouldn't mind receiving a one-week used lens at full retail price?

I know I would prefer a lens that is BNIB.




  
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Feb 21, 2012 19:05 |  #55

watt100 wrote in post #13939178 (external link)
Adorama has the exact same policy

I think you'll find most major online retailers with that policy. They would have to have it to compete.


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Feb 21, 2012 19:06 |  #56

monkeymagic wrote in post #13937410 (external link)
I sure hope I don't get one of the OP's lenses if I ever buy anything on B&H. I hope most people who shop online are more ethical than the OP but in fact this discourages me from shopping at B&H all together.

I have to comment here. The OP is not doing anything wrong! B&H does not sell returned items as new! I shop at B&H at store level, they have a separate entrance for their used and return departments which are not part of their retail store, I am almost positive these items are sold as used or sent back to the manufacturer for refurb, when I returned items to them they were given a slip and stamp to differentiate them from new. Kudos To the OP, and don't let people get you down.




  
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Feb 21, 2012 19:09 |  #57

Joei wrote in post #13939347 (external link)
I have to comment here. The OP is not doing anything wrong! B&H does not sell returned items as new! I shop at B&H at store level, they have a separate entrance for their used and return departments which are not part of their retail store, I am almost positive these items are sold as used or sent back to the manufacturer for refurb, when I returned items to them they were given a slip and stamp to differentiate them from new. Kudos To the OP, and don't let people get you down.

+1

I would be very surprised if they were reselling as new. The manufacturer is the one in that agrees to terms with these larger online retailers.


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Feb 21, 2012 19:10 |  #58

Joei wrote in post #13939347 (external link)
I have to comment here. The OP is not doing anything wrong!

In this case, I would agree. He's providing a service here. As stated before, it's the dudes who order four copies, scope them all out, and then return the other three that are the issue.

I am almost positive these items are sold as used or sent back to the manufacturer for refurb.

This I don't buy. And I'm not speaking of any store in particular, but there's no way this would work. Lenses in perfect condition with all the materials (note how this is emphasized in most return policys so the item looks factory fresh) are probably resold as new.


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Feb 21, 2012 19:22 |  #59

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OP, one week and only few crap shots? Sorry, but time and effort well wasted.
Next time read real reviews here
http://www.photozone.d​e/canon-eos (external link) and look at each lens pictures archive on P.O.T.N where much better real life pictures provided by more experienced users.
Sorry.

Most helpful post of the thread.

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Feb 21, 2012 19:46 |  #60

kf095 wrote in post #13938867 (external link)
OP, one week and only few crap shots? Sorry, but time and effort well wasted.
Next time read real reviews here
http://www.photozone.d​e/canon-eos (external link) and look at each lens pictures archive on P.O.T.N where much better real life pictures provided by more experienced users.
Sorry.

I can't write what I'd really like to write, otherwise I would probably be banned from POTN.

Sorry for the crap shots (btw you think these are the only shots I took?). Unfortunately in the past week, I've had to, you know - work at a full time job that isn't photography related, travel for medical reasons, and tend to my family. So I didn't get a chance to travel the world and take Ansel Adams masterpieces and load them up for you, your highness.

I did read the reviews - every one possible. And I looked at 95%+ of all the photo archives of these two lenses on POTN. But just because someone with 20 years of experience posted an awesome photo a year ago on a message board doesn't make it the right lens FOR ME.

WTF.


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