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Feb 22, 2012 22:35 |  #4561

Gice, it looks very good.


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Feb 22, 2012 23:23 |  #4562

giCe wrote in post #13948014 (external link)
First stab at photographing interior. C&C very much welcomed. Thanks!

A pretty nice modern interior! I'll just make one suggestion: the hotspots from light sources appear overexposed (such as on the upper cabinet faces). Your lines look straight and true. Nice work.


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Feb 23, 2012 06:31 |  #4563

nice shots gice!


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Feb 23, 2012 10:29 |  #4564

TGrundvig wrote in post #13948031 (external link)
I'm always trying to find ways to reduce steps. I have played around with blending a flash frame but the more I play with SNS the more I realize I don't need it. I've also been shooting in Auto WB and then adjusting the color casts in SNS in a matter of seconds. It has layer masks, curves, color selection for adjustment, intelligent selection, and more. I'm really liking this program and I think it has a functions that are very helpful. Not good for batch process because each image is different, but very good for getting really good results right from the program. Then, I just do little edits in PS and call it done.

I'll have a look at that software today as I have 2 houses to do this afternoon.


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Feb 23, 2012 11:20 |  #4565

TGrundvig wrote in post #13947678 (external link)
Did you use Photomatix Pro to create this?

I don't like Photomatix Pro at all. I use LR Enfuse, a plugin for Lightroom.


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Feb 23, 2012 11:28 |  #4566

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Hey guys and gals, been doing so reading on Exposure Fusion and Flash photography for real estate...and about blending both into a single image.

Here is what I've come up with after a shoot. First image is the exposure fusion, composed of 7 exposures (-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3). Second is with using a flash, bounced off of the ceiling. Last one is Both images blended (FLash one is blended at 50% into the Exposure fusion one).

All images are without post processing other than the blending so please no need to mention the shadow on the ceiling or the dust specs on the sensor, I know ! :lol:

I just need your opinion on the blending of both images, what you would do differently or not. Feel free to play with the images...and Thank you for viewing.

Blended image of the Exposure fusion image + Flash image
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I think it looks fine, if the room is yellow you will obviously have yellow light. Like a previous poster said, does the yellow look like you remembered it?
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Feb 23, 2012 11:31 |  #4567

giCe wrote in post #13948014 (external link)
First stab at photographing interior. C&C very much welcomed. Thanks!

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These are very nice. I like the composition and the exposures. The lights are a little hot, but not by much.


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Feb 23, 2012 11:44 as a reply to  @ post 13948014 |  #4568

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Feb 23, 2012 12:36 |  #4569

Joe.Recon wrote in post #13951457 (external link)
I don't like Photomatix Pro at all. I use LR Enfuse, a plugin for Lightroom.

I have that program as well, but it would give me fits from time to time. I recently discovered that Enfuse worked better for me when I spaced the frames wider. I had a Master Bedroom with really bright windows, just the time of day I was there. So, I did my usually 1 1/3 stops apart, which works great with SNS-HDR Pro, but it wasn't getting the whole DR for that shot. So, I shot two more AEB sets, one with 1 2/3 stops apart and one at 2 stops apart. I thought the 2 stops was extreme since my camera will shoot 7 frames, but I did it anyway.

I got back to the office and ran all three sets through SNS and as I expected, the 1 1/3 stops were best for that program. But, I wanted to see what Enfuse would do and when I ran all three AEB sets through that program, the 7 frames that were 2 stops apart gave me better window data and better interior brightness. I was taught to keep my frames closer together for Enfuse, but recent tests have shown me that Enfuse works better with the frames wider apart. I still liked the image I got from SNS better than the Enfuse one, but your results look better than what I typically get straight from Enfuse. Would you mind sharing what your blending settings are at? Mine are 1.0 for Exposure Weight and .20 for Saturation Weight, zero on Contrast Weight and No Hard Mask.

Also, are you going straight from the DNG file to Enfuse or are you converting it to something else first? I import to LR and convert to DNG file, so it goes from DNG to Enfuse and maybe that is a step I need to change. I know that with SNS I found I get much better results when I open the images in ACR, convert to Adobe RGB, and save as tiff file than if I use sRBG or use DPP to convert the images. DPP does not do as good of a job of converting to tiff images as ACR. I did this test with several different AEB sets, I tried different color profiles, different files types (jpeg, tiff), and the results were best with Adobe RGB, tiff file, converted from ACR. I could not explain 'why' to save my life, but I just know the results were better this way.

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Feb 23, 2012 18:48 |  #4570

gnwatts wrote in post #13951518 (external link)
I think it looks fine, if the room is yellow you will obviously have yellow light. Like a previous poster said, does the yellow look like you remembered it?
Greg

Yes it does look like it was originally. Thank you for commenting.


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Feb 23, 2012 19:10 |  #4571

TGrundvig wrote in post #13952006 (external link)
I have that program as well, but it would give me fits from time to time. I recently discovered that Enfuse worked better for me when I spaced the frames wider. I had a Master Bedroom with really bright windows, just the time of day I was there. So, I did my usually 1 1/3 stops apart, which works great with SNS-HDR Pro, but it wasn't getting the whole DR for that shot. So, I shot two more AEB sets, one with 1 2/3 stops apart and one at 2 stops apart. I thought the 2 stops was extreme since my camera will shoot 7 frames, but I did it anyway.

I got back to the office and ran all three sets through SNS and as I expected, the 1 1/3 stops were best for that program. But, I wanted to see what Enfuse would do and when I ran all three AEB sets through that program, the 7 frames that were 2 stops apart gave me better window data and better interior brightness. I was taught to keep my frames closer together for Enfuse, but recent tests have shown me that Enfuse works better with the frames wider apart. I still liked the image I got from SNS better than the Enfuse one, but your results look better than what I typically get straight from Enfuse. Would you mind sharing what your blending settings are at? Mine are 1.0 for Exposure Weight and .20 for Saturation Weight, zero on Contrast Weight and No Hard Mask.

Also, are you going straight from the DNG file to Enfuse or are you converting it to something else first? I import to LR and convert to DNG file, so it goes from DNG to Enfuse and maybe that is a step I need to change. I know that with SNS I found I get much better results when I open the images in ACR, convert to Adobe RGB, and save as tiff file than if I use sRBG or use DPP to convert the images. DPP does not do as good of a job of converting to tiff images as ACR. I did this test with several different AEB sets, I tried different color profiles, different files types (jpeg, tiff), and the results were best with Adobe RGB, tiff file, converted from ACR. I could not explain 'why' to save my life, but I just know the results were better this way.

Thanks!

Interesting tests. My exposure brackets are -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3. I sometimes add a -4, -5 or 4, 5 depending on the outcome of the first set of 7 exposures.

My blending settings for LR ENfuse are exactly as yours.

I stack all raws (CR2) and blend them in LR Enfuse (plugin from Lightroom 3). I've tried tons of HDR / Exposure Fusion software but I always comeback to LR Enfuse simply because I find it's the one that gives me the most natural results, unlike Photomatix Pro that seems to always have that artificial finish to it (maybe it's just me not knowing the limits of the program).

I fine tune my images in Lightroom 3 and align verticals and horizontals on Photoshop CS5.

That is the extent of my workflow for "Real Estate Photography". Of course, I could do more but my clients are more than satisfied with what I offer.

PS: Lately, I've been experimenting with interior flash photography and if all goes well, I might drop HRD/Exposure Blending all together. I am learning to better like flash photography for interiors and I think that the high end Interior Photography gig will lean towards flash photography rather than pure HDR/Exposure Blending...but that's just my opinion.

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Feb 23, 2012 19:14 |  #4572

My friend's house, in HDR:

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Feb 23, 2012 19:26 |  #4573

OF CAMERA FLASH ONLY

A few shots I did today of a house for a client of mine. The owner was nice enough to let me stay an extra 1.5 hours and do an extra shoot using flashes instead of Exposure Blending.

I was using two flashes, Canon 580ex II and Canon 430ex II, on Pocket Wizards TT5. A Pocket Wizard TT1 on my 5D MkII which was mounted on a tripod. Lens is a Canon TSE 17 mm, set at f8. The images you see here are the ones I think turned out the best. I still need to practice with the flashes.

The camera was not tethered so I ended up with many photos that had flash spots showing up in the final image...guess this is where i say "I will learn from my mistakes".

So, your C&C is most welcomed. Thank you for viewing.

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Feb 23, 2012 19:28 |  #4574

Nice set. Was that just for personal use or are you using those to sell his house ?

bigC wrote in post #13954643 (external link)
My friend's house, in HDR:

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Feb 23, 2012 20:48 |  #4575

giCe, what HDR software are you using?


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