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Buying Rebel XT, help with lens selection

 
DjTrex
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Apr 12, 2006 06:35 |  #1

This will be my first "Real" camera. I am a graphic deigner and i make flyers and business cards. I also work at a strip club. The club i work for has me design their flyers. I will be using this camera to take pictures of the girls for the flyers. I will also be using this camera for taking background pictures for these same flyers. By Backgrounds i mean textures and other non moving objects.

I need some advise on what lens i should buy that will be the best for this type of application.

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Apr 12, 2006 07:44 |  #2

If you mean you will be taking images in a dark strip club you will need a fast lens, and maybe a decent flash, such as Sigma 24-70 2.8, Canon 50mm 1.4 or the 1.8...depends on how close you want to get to those girls and how much you want to spend?


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Apr 12, 2006 08:24 as a reply to  @ Neilyb's post |  #3

with textures, it may be better to go for the 60mm macro. it may be a bit long indoors, but if the club's big enough, should work out alright. great macro lens with image quality of an L lens. as for the club pics, ide suggest you find decent lighting, because you want the pictures to be more than just a faithful representation of the club, you want the place and girls to shine ;).


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Apr 12, 2006 13:36 as a reply to  @ basroil's post |  #4

I'm probably not going to be taking the pictures of the girls in the dark club. Even if i do it will be after hours and the lights will be on. How can i tell if the lens is a "fast lens" ? I also would like to take pix similar to your flower (neilyb).

Should i purchase just the Body and then the lens or are any of the kit lens' any good? I'm probably going to buy from this site. It offers several different lens combo's. What one will be best for me?

http://royalcamera.com …eos-digital-rebel-xt.html (external link)

Thank you very much,
Wayne

P.S. I am on a very tight budget so i need something that will be versitile enough for most of my needs.


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Apr 12, 2006 13:43 as a reply to  @ DjTrex's post |  #5

Read up on Royal Camera.

http://www.resellerrat​ings.com/seller1895.ht​ml (external link)


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Apr 12, 2006 13:52 |  #6

DjTrex wrote:
.... I am a graphic deigner and i make flyers and business cards. I also work at a strip club. ....

At first that led me to think "Wow, must be a HOT graphic designer

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!" but when i read further.....:lol:

Anyways, i agree on the external flash and a fast lens(f2.8 or faster). An extremely thrifty portrait lens - EF 50mm f1.8 should be available at B&H, for about $70.

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Apr 12, 2006 16:31 |  #7

fast lenses are those that have smaller f-numbers but have wider apertures.

you should be after 1.4/1.8/2.8 tops

the kit lens 18-55 is too slow for a strip club
you see the minimal f-number is 3.5
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Apr 12, 2006 16:49 |  #8

buy it at b&h

go to http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/ (external link)
in the search box type: psmar
the select canon from the little box
you will find the rebel xt body for $549.95
plus canon has $100 rebates on the rebel xt's until August
so if this is all correct you can get the body for $450
not bad.


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Apr 12, 2006 18:26 as a reply to  @ pup's post |  #9

so is the 18-55 good for anything? Or is it just a piece of garbage?


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Apr 12, 2006 19:03 as a reply to  @ DjTrex's post |  #10

OMG, thank you so much RWK. I check them out at that site. I thought something was funny when i sent them several emails asking questions about the camera packages, with no reply. I even decided to try to call them today and i got no answer. The website says they are open til 9pm EST mon-thurs but their answering machine said they were only open til 5pm.

I had another website (TCS camera)with similar setup and pricing. I did a search on them and got the same WARNING about them.

thx again,
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Apr 12, 2006 23:36 |  #11

Just get the kit 18-55 lens and any currently produced Canon flash unit that has a model higher than 400. This will be fine and get you going. Stop sweating the lens purchase.

From your posts it is obvious you are a beginner. An alternate expensive lens will not make you a better photographer, if you don't fully understand the nature of the expensive lens’s attributes and how to exploit them.

And despite what all the purists say, the kit lens is capable of perfectly good photographic quality.

Also, I suggest you take images of the "women" that work at the same establishment, and promptly escort any "girls" that have wondered into the facility out the door, or possibly call their parents.

Just because you work in strip club does not mean you have to be adopt sexist vernacular.

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Apr 13, 2006 01:08 as a reply to  @ FlashZebra's post |  #12

Although this is getting OT, i would like to ask what "sexist vernacular"? May be i should just use the general word Female just to be safe! Can someone explain the age breakdown on when a "FEMALE" goes from being ok with being called a girl to where they require the exact term "WOMAN"? I didn't think it was that big of deal. Am i wrong?


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Apr 13, 2006 03:29 |  #13

I would suggest buying the body and a Sigma 18-50 2.8, rather than the kit lens. If I had my time again I wouldn't touch the kit lens. It was great to start with but I mainly do landscapes, not darkened strip clubs....don't buy the kit lens!

May I also suggest you do not call anyone "Girl" or "Woman", perhaps "Performer" or "Artiste" instead? :)


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Apr 13, 2006 07:30 as a reply to  @ pup's post |  #14

pup wrote:
buy it at b&h

go to http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/ (external link)
in the search box type: psmar
the select canon from the little box
you will find the rebel xt body for $549.95
plus canon has $100 rebates on the rebel xt's until August
so if this is all correct you can get the body for $450
not bad.

great to know


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Apr 13, 2006 08:19 |  #15

Be careful with that link to B&H- the $550 rebel is NOT the XT.
Cheapest I found XT, safely, is Amazon, 689 black body only, minus $100 rebate =$589.


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