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Feb 28, 2012 16:37 |  #4606

If both photos were taken with no change to setup (FL, position etc) then you could try a blend of the 2.

I'd start with the HDR working image. Copy paste the flash image onto the HDR and duplicate it so you have 2 layer the same

Your layers should be:

Background: HDR
Layer 1: FLASH
Layer 2: FLASH

Now set layer 1's opacity to 50% and layer mode to color.
Now set layer 2' opacity to 25%.

Tweak from there and see what you get.

I find the 1st layer corrects WB and color shifts while not completely colorizing the HDR and blending in 25% of the flash on top of that just helps to balance the light.


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Feb 28, 2012 16:56 |  #4607

TGrundvig wrote in post #13983732 (external link)
There has to be a way to make it work. It seems pretty simple if you ask me. I upload the photos to dropbox.com, copy the share link, then somehow setup PayPal so that it releases the link AFTER payment is received. Let me do some digging around and see what I can find.

I am thinking site that handles it all would be great. It would take a lot of start up cash but a site like this would be hugely successful IMO.

Not just for RE photogs but ANY photog that delivers images electronically. Heck, anyone that needs to deliver files electrically and get paid for their work. There could even be a DVD/CD order option for extra costs. You simply get charged a small percentage like Paypal for the service and maybe a small annual fee to help cover operation costs as I am sure there would be a fair amount.


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Feb 28, 2012 17:38 |  #4608

TheReal7 wrote in post #13985547 (external link)
If both photos were taken with no change to setup (FL, position etc) then you could try a blend of the 2.

I'd start with the HDR working image. Copy paste the flash image onto the HDR and duplicate it so you have 2 layer the same

Your layers should be:

Background: HDR
Layer 1: FLASH
Layer 2: FLASH

Now set layer 1's opacity to 50% and layer mode to color.
Now set layer 2' opacity to 25%.

Tweak from there and see what you get.

I find the 1st layer corrects WB and color shifts while not completely colorizing the HDR and blending in 25% of the flash on top of that just helps to balance the light.


ok I will try some of that!

thanks again guys!


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Feb 28, 2012 17:47 |  #4609

I already have an understanding with the agents I do business with: Pay the day of the shoot and you get the photos same day or get photos when they are paid if they are not able to pay me same day. None of them have complained. I sometimes have to drive by their office before heading home to process the photos but it's all good.

There is only one agent that I collect after every 4 or 5 houses but we have a "verbal agreement" as she has been using my services for 3 years now.

Something I've recently started doing is charging for when I show up at a property and the owner cancels the shoot without notice. I charge 40$. Again, this has happened to me only 5 times and my clients have not complained for the extra fee as they are aware that it is "a situation that is beyond my control".

A friend of mine, who also does R/E Photography has started charging an extra fee for his agents that call him at last minute with a "you have to do it now or I will be fined for not having the image up within the 5 business days that it is supposed to be on the website!" At first, I disagreed with him but my friend said, and I quote, "If it's not done, the agent will be fined 1000$. So why not charge a fee of 50$ for a rush job ! Specially that you have to cancel plans at last minute and modify your schedule for the agent who knew 5 days ago that pictures had to be taken." Then I agreed with him and now charge an extra 50$ for the "last minute rush job!"

Anyone else have "special fees" ?

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Wow, some people have a lot of nerve. I had an agent I did a shoot for and I've been trying to collect my money for two freaking months. She has been ignoring calls, emails, etc. Then, all of a sudden, she pays and then wants me to do another shoot. She orders it today and I tell her I am booked until Friday. She gets pissed at ME as says that doesn't work for her.....LOL

I have to admit, I never had any problems getting paid when I was doing just the Interactive Floor Plans because the company that builds it for me also charges the agent's credit card. However, now that I'm doing a lot more photo only gigs, some of these agents are a pain in the arse to get money from. From now on, I think I'm going to send a PayPal invoice, once they pay it they can have their photos. I just don't have time for billing and tracking down invoices.

Okay, I'm dong venting....LOL

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:idea::idea::idea:


How GREAT would a service be that you could upload your photos, send the client an invoice that when paid (PP, CC etc.) would allow them to d/l the photos. All you have to do is u/l and email. Done!

Hmmmmm.....


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Feb 28, 2012 17:49 |  #4610

Random question. In what situations do you handhold and use the flash instead of using a tripod?

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Feb 28, 2012 17:50 |  #4611

Doesn't Smugmug do that ?

TheReal7 wrote in post #13985657 (external link)
I am thinking site that handles it all would be great. It would take a lot of start up cash but a site like this would be hugely successful IMO.

Not just for RE photogs but ANY photog that delivers images electronically. Heck, anyone that needs to deliver files electrically and get paid for their work. There could even be a DVD/CD order option for extra costs. You simply get charged a small percentage like Paypal for the service and maybe a small annual fee to help cover operation costs as I am sure there would be a fair amount.


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Feb 28, 2012 17:54 |  #4612

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Doesn't Smugmug do that ?

I have no idea. Never used SM. I am guessing there MUST be some type of service like this out there.


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Feb 28, 2012 17:55 |  #4613

I only handhold when standing on the roof of my jeep for an aerial shot of a house. It's a single exposure and no HDR.

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Random question. In what situations do you handhold and use the flash instead of using a tripod?

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Feb 28, 2012 17:55 |  #4614

I think they do but not certain.

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I have no idea. Never used SM. I am guessing there MUST be some type of service like this out there.


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Feb 28, 2012 18:01 |  #4615

Joe.Recon wrote in post #13985963 (external link)
I only handhold when standing on the roof of my jeep for an aerial shot of a house. It's a single exposure and no HDR.


I get great results handholding with bounce flash, i also work the shutter speed and flash to get detail from the outside thru the windows, all in one exposure


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Feb 28, 2012 18:08 |  #4616

Do you have a portfolio, I would love to see your results with handheld HDRs

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I get great results handholding with bounce flash, i also work the shutter speed and flash to get detail from the outside thru the windows, all in one exposure


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Feb 28, 2012 18:28 |  #4617

Joe.Recon wrote in post #13986050 (external link)
Do you have a portfolio, I would love to see your results with handheld HDRs

No i don't, i just started real estate photography, i shoot properties for a scouting company that finds properties for film's and producers. no HDR's regular shots so far.


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Feb 28, 2012 19:51 |  #4618

Paypal has an option that allows you to send an email or something after a payment has been made. I'm currently in the process of strengthening this side of our business and haven't had a chance to dig in deep with this yet but know that there are options out there, you just have to look beyond the surface.


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Feb 28, 2012 21:59 |  #4619

V-Wiz wrote in post #13986181 (external link)
No i don't, i just started real estate photography, i shoot properties for a scouting company that finds properties for film's and producers. no HDR's regular shots so far.

That's very cool. Do you find the properties or just shoot them?


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Feb 28, 2012 23:59 |  #4620

Well, my first attempt at some interior stuff! Unfortunately I only had 20 minutes to get some shots before I had to open the store, haha. This was definitely a difficult place to start since it's so busy and all the shoes/apparel illuminates with flash (so I only did HDR). Any idea what you guys would do to make it better? I've noticed that real estate photography is really lacking in my location, so I figured I could start working on that niche...


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