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Feb 29, 2012 10:41 |  #1

Hi All!

I am currently using a Canon EOS 50D with the kit lens 17-85mm USM IS 4/5.6, a 50mm 1.8 and a 580 EX II flashgun.
I am considering stepping up my gear and spend a bit of money on the 24-70mm L 2.8, ideally to become my main gear and replace the 17-85. Thoughts about it?

Also, I noticed how the 50mm is great for portraits but a bit too tight for a walk around lens. Any idea on what to replace it with that might be a nice complement for the 24-70? If you still believe the 24-70 is a sensible solution (priority being sharpness and IQ).

I would probably use more wideangle than tele, to be honest.

In summary: one expensive lens + a cheaper normal lens and/or perhaps a wideangle.

Suggestions on what to get?




  
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Feb 29, 2012 12:04 |  #2

If you aren't going full frame any time soon why not get the 17-55 f2.8 IS? It's image quality is highly regarded by most people. I use 1.3x and 1.6x crops and find that every now and then I get into a situation where 24mm isn't wide enough. Since you already have a lens that goes out to 17mm you should make sure that you're willing to give that up before deciding how to move forward.


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Feb 29, 2012 12:09 as a reply to  @ cueball's post |  #3

I will upgrade to a FF, but not soon.
Is a L series lens superior in terms of glass? That would be my main reason to get it and the n add a wider angle lens.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 12:10 |  #4

Check your photo collections and see what focal length you shot the most! If you find photos are always beyond 24mm, then by all means go for the 24-70mm L! It is one of the best zoom out there, and work horse lens for lots of wedding shooters!


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Feb 29, 2012 12:13 as a reply to  @ thestone11's post |  #5

The problem is that I am still learning and experiencing different things.
So I just would like to get a top quality lens, versatile, to use pretty much all the time.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 12:17 |  #6

walk around on a crop body, i like the 15-85. very versatile and great IQ. i don't know if i'd do what you're planning, seems like a lot of work for little gain.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 13:56 |  #7

I chose the 24-105 f/4L IS instead of the 24-70 f/2.8L on the basis that I would trade a stop of speed for a little more reach, IS and a slightly lower pricetag. I have not been disappointed.

Adding a prime such as the 28mm f/1.8 would be a nice general walkaround that's a bit wider and closer to eye perspective on a crop. It's about as close (well, the Sigma 30mm would be almost exactly) as a 50mm on a FF, which most consider an approximation of what your eye sees.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 15:23 |  #8

Take a look at the Sigma 17-70 OS lens. It's a great walk-around lens, and faster at the wide end than the 24-105. I have THAT too, but it fits the gap between my 10-20 and my 70-200 really well, and does a great job. The price is nice, too, 'specially if you can snag one from Sigma's "Outlet" site...
http://www.sigmaphoto.​com/sigma-outlet (external link)

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Feb 29, 2012 16:27 |  #9

If you're considering the 24-70mm, snag the current model before the II becomes the only one you can get new.

Although I'd be tempted to wait for the new Tamron 24-70mm to be released and thoroughly reviewed. If it's any good IQ-wise, having VC would be nice.

If you don't really need much on the long end but 24mm is wide enough, I've heard the older Sigma 24-60mm f/2.8 is pretty good and not real expensive if you can find one.


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Mar 01, 2012 01:19 |  #10

YMMV, but I don't find 24mm wide enough on a crop sensor. The difference between 17mm and 24mm on the wide end is pretty significant, especially since you don't appear to have a wide/UWA lens to switch to when you want to go wider.

Don Madson wrote in post #13992078 (external link)
Take a look at the Sigma 17-70 OS lens. It's a great walk-around lens, and faster at the wide end than the 24-105. I have THAT too, but it fits the gap between my 10-20 and my 70-200 really well, and does a great job. The price is nice, too, 'specially if you can snag one from Sigma's "Outlet" site...
http://www.sigmaphoto.​com/sigma-outlet (external link)...

Glad to see I'm not the only one making this recommendation to people. I think it's an excellent walkaround lens for a crop camera and offers a lot more bang for the buck than the 15-85 and/or 17-50/55 variants.


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Mar 06, 2012 00:36 as a reply to  @ Veemac's post |  #11

tempest68,
That was another concern....does it make sense to buy MK1 when the MK2 is on its way?
Prices are not comparable - I would never buy a MK2 right now. But as a matter of fact, with the MK1, I am buying something that will be discontinued soon - is it a good investment? Would the very expensive MK2 and no MK1 available anymore keep the second hand MK1 price high? Or people will just forget about MK1?

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