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Moving from Nikon D300 to 5DMkii

 
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Feb 25, 2012 11:46 |  #16

if its image quality you are after and are very critical, I would say get the D700. Its really very spectacular. I love canon. I like the options it gives me and more importantly my hands just like the canon ergo a bit more, something I find of the utmost importance when you are hold a camera for hours and hours. but image quality, in my limited experience is better on the nikon.


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Feb 25, 2012 11:57 |  #17

Firstly, the D700 is FF. I only mention that since you used FF as a selling point for the 5D Mark II. I'm not going to bash the Canon's AF but instead I'll focus on the D700's AF; it's very good. Fast enough for sports or anything else you want to shoot with it. When making a decision like this I always focus on down the road instead of right now. Six months down the road, will you be sick and tired of having to focus and recompose everything? If you ever plan on shooting anything with any kind of movement involved you will find the Canon seriously lacking, especially if it's something that you need an outer focus point to catch. I own both Canons and Nikons, I shoot both systems on an almost daily basis. In every respect, I would choose the D700. No, it doesn't have video but you can't shoot video and take stills at the same time so video is pointless to me personally.


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Feb 25, 2012 15:35 |  #18

elrey2375 wrote in post #13964888 (external link)
Firstly, the D700 is FF. I only mention that since you used FF as a selling point for the 5D Mark II. I'm not going to bash the Canon's AF but instead I'll focus on the D700's AF; it's very good. Fast enough for sports or anything else you want to shoot with it. When making a decision like this I always focus on down the road instead of right now. Six months down the road, will you be sick and tired of having to focus and recompose everything? If you ever plan on shooting anything with any kind of movement involved you will find the Canon seriously lacking, especially if it's something that you need an outer focus point to catch. I own both Canons and Nikons, I shoot both systems on an almost daily basis. In every respect, I would choose the D700. No, it doesn't have video but you can't shoot video and take stills at the same time so video is pointless to me personally.

The only things that move that I'm planning on shooting will be weddings and my kids! Can I ask you how you found the image quality of the D700 compared with the 5D Mkii?




  
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Feb 25, 2012 15:50 |  #19

Ibitezombies wrote in post #13965807 (external link)
The only things that move that I'm planning on shooting will be weddings and my kids! Can I ask you how you found the image quality of the D700 compared with the 5D Mkii?

Weddings is a good enough reason to choose the D700 over the 5D2.

The AF, especially on outer focus points, is so much more reliable.




  
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Feb 25, 2012 16:08 |  #20

Sort of off topic but how does the AF in the 5D2 compare to the AF in the 60D? Is it the exact same?




  
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Feb 25, 2012 16:15 |  #21

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Sort of off topic but how does the AF in the 5D2 compare to the AF in the 60D? Is it the exact same?

I've not used either, but on paper the 60D's should in theory be better as all 9 of it's AF points are cross type (and therefore more sensitive) where as only the centre point on the 5DMkii is cross type.




  
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Feb 25, 2012 16:21 as a reply to  @ Ibitezombies's post |  #22

I do not like to be negative, but I just switched from the 5D2 to my first Nikon, (D700.) I am not a pro, still a very serious amateur, but I worked with the focusing of the 5D2 for a year and a half, and still the sharpest images that I had on my computer were shot with a friend of mine D700 and 24-70 f2.8 lens.
I just sold my 5D2 body, 3 lenses and 2 flashes, and made the switch to Nikon.
I would really research this decision that you are making. Sorry.




  
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Feb 25, 2012 17:03 |  #23

Ibitezombies wrote in post #13965970 (external link)
I've not used either, but on paper the 60D's should in theory be better as all 9 of it's AF points are cross type (and therefore more sensitive) where as only the centre point on the 5DMkii is cross type.

Wow I thought 60D was only single cross type. That pisses me off I shoot a lot of concerts and need fast autofocus and have been wanting the 5d2 iq for a while. I hope when I get it my concert photography doesnt go to absolute crap, focusing on faces is very important and using centerpoint doesnt always make a good composition..




  
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Feb 25, 2012 17:56 |  #24

thedcmule2 wrote in post #13966182 (external link)
Wow I thought 60D was only single cross type. That pisses me off I shoot a lot of concerts and need fast autofocus and have been wanting the 5d2 iq for a while. I hope when I get it my concert photography doesnt go to absolute crap, focusing on faces is very important and using centerpoint doesnt always make a good composition..

I think you'll struggle a bit with the single center point focusing, especially in low light, it's hard to keep the single point on the subject, especially if it's small in the frame. However it works really well with static objects


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Feb 28, 2012 14:15 as a reply to  @ lannes's post |  #25

Do any more 5Dmkii users have opinions on the AF as this seems to be the main point which everyone mentions? Especially with regard to wedding/kids photography?

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Feb 28, 2012 22:46 as a reply to  @ Ibitezombies's post |  #26

Photography is just a hobby and I usually use center-point and recompose.

I currently use a 5D2 coming from a 60D, and have been satisfied with the AF capability of the 5D2 and the 60D. However, please note that I am not a PRO but an ordinary guy taking photos of friends, family and a few nature/landscape scenes.

If wedding photography is important, why not go to other sites (like flickr, professional wedding photographer site, etc) so you'll be able to answer the questions of:

What camera body do professional wedding photgraphers use as their camera bodies? 5D2, D700, other camera bodies/brands?

What's the IQ of actual wedding photos taken by the 5D2, D700 or other models/brands? Is the camera body you are considering able to output photos to your satisfaction?

Of course, the most important factor would be the person behind the camera and the camera body is just a tool which has limitations/capabiliti​es, and it is up to the photographer to optimize the use of his equipment.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 15:37 |  #27

I think you'll find that the 5D-MkII is the most widely used camera by wedding photographers. One contributing reason for that might be the 50L and 85L lenses which are also very widely used by wedding photographers.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 17:59 |  #28

jayadeff wrote in post #13992187 (external link)
I think you'll find that the 5D-MkII is the most widely used camera by wedding photographers. One contributing reason for that might be the 50L and 85L lenses which are also very widely used by wedding photographers.

Not around here it isn't.

D700 seems to be the most popular here, with D3s/D3/1D4/1D3 next, with 5D2 running last.

And the most widely-used lenses are 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8, of either brand, with the occasional 35mm prime.




  
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Feb 29, 2012 18:22 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #29

I definitely think the 5DMkii has sold more units than the D700, it does seem to be a very popular camera.

However the more I think about it, the D700 may be a better choice for me. If I hadn't been used to the D300's autofocus I don't think it would be such a hard decision, but knowing what I could be using in a D700 I think that I would always be wanting more from the Mkii's AF system.

One thing that does slightly concern me is the 12mp vs 21 mp. I know that MP aren't meant to matter but surely more is generally better? Or will 12mp suffice for portraits, and weddings? I do intend to print work eventually so will 12 be enough?




  
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Feb 29, 2012 18:34 |  #30

Ibitezombies wrote in post #13993255 (external link)
I definitely think the 5DMkii has sold more units than the D700, it does seem to be a very popular camera.

However the more I think about it, the D700 may be a better choice for me. If I hadn't been used to the D300's autofocus I don't think it would be such a hard decision, but knowing what I could be using in a D700 I think that I would always be wanting more from the Mkii's AF system.

One thing that does slightly concern me is the 12mp vs 21 mp. I know that MP aren't meant to matter but surely more is generally better? Or will 12mp suffice for portraits, and weddings? I do intend to print work eventually so will 12 be enough?

How large do you intend to print?

If you're mostly shooting people and not making huge prints, it won't matter much. I personally chose the 5D2, but that's because I shoot landscapes, my typical print size is 36" or larger on the long edge and I need every bit of detail I can extract, in a compact body.

Overall sales volumes don't mean much - they're more a product of advertising, public awareness and even availability than of product quality. The 5D2 was snapped up by amateurs and videographers; I rarely see an amateur with a D700. I do, however, see D700s frequently in the hands of professional still photographers?




  
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