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Who's making the switch to Nikon / D800

 
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Mar 01, 2012 22:02 |  #646

22MP and 6 fps with pro AF? If that's true Canon is about to announce the camera that would have kept me from switching to Nikon. If I felt a need to upgrade from my D700 (and I don't) my only options now are to go with a D4 (too big) or switch back to Canon (too expensive, and I prefer Nikon zooms).

The D800 is of no interest to me at all because of the low fps in FX mode, so I guess I'll have to wait to see what the D900 brings. At least my wife will be happy! :)


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Mar 01, 2012 22:25 |  #647

Bob_A wrote in post #14002681 (external link)
22MP and 6 fps with pro AF? If that's true Canon is about to announce the camera that would have kept me from switching to Nikon. If I felt a need to upgrade from my D700 (and I don't) my only options now are to go with a D4 (too big) or switch back to Canon (too expensive, and I prefer Nikon zooms).

The D800 is of no interest to me at all because of the low fps in FX mode, so I guess I'll have to wait to see what the D900 brings. At least my wife will be happy! :)

Ill trade my gear. I'm in sask. I need a 70-200 vr2 and a quality WA......


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Mar 01, 2012 22:48 |  #648
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Can the D800 do pixel binning?




  
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Mar 01, 2012 23:33 |  #649

So, who's changing their mind about staying or dumping Canon?


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Mar 01, 2012 23:34 |  #650

For $500 less, D800 seems to have better specs and new features.

The new radio transmitter with ETTL is nice though.


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Mar 01, 2012 23:42 |  #651

Still very interested in making the switch to Nikon, I'm trying to talk my wife our of it, but she's pretty adamant at this point. She keeps calling Nikon the new Apple. I'm trying to convince myself that Canon will announce a studio camera in the next 6 months or so.

Either way, not buying anything until we see extensive reviews with sample images, not the sample images from Nikon endorsed shooters...

Nikon shooters will continue to wait for a D700 replacement, Canon shooters will continue to wait for a 5DII replacement.


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Mar 02, 2012 00:10 |  #652

snaphappyphotography wrote in post #14003746 (external link)
Still very interested in making the switch to Nikon, I'm trying to talk my wife our of it, but she's pretty adamant at this point. She keeps calling Nikon the new Apple. I'm trying to convince myself that Canon will announce a studio camera in the next 6 months or so.

Either way, not buying anything until we see extensive reviews with sample images, not the sample images from Nikon endorsed shooters...

Nikon shooters will continue to wait for a D700 replacement, Canon shooters will continue to wait for a 5DII replacement.

At least they have a D4, for those who need speed and don't need resolution.

We don't have any high-resolution body at the moment, regardless of cost.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 00:55 |  #653

Shadowblade wrote in post #14003972 (external link)
At least they have a D4, for those who need speed and don't need resolution.

We don't have any high-resolution body at the moment, regardless of cost.

lol I thought you were a Nikon shooter from all the time you've been defending/praising them in the D800 threads.

Yes, that's true. And we can still buy a new D700 if we can't afford the D4. But I think a lot of Nikon shooters feel slighted by the lack of a fast new FX body for less than $6K. I mean, they could've at least given us more than one extra frame/sec with the now $600 grip. Although I recognize that Canon has never done the grip = more speed thing.

I feel like there's no way Canon won't put out a higher MP version of (most likely) the 5D3 in the next year. If they don't, studio/fashion/landsca​pers will start to switch en masse. On the other hand, Nikon probably won't lose much by not giving the D700 a direct replacement, so it's less likely to happen.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 01:16 |  #654

that d800e is looking more and more tempting to me....


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Mar 02, 2012 02:48 |  #655
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Anyone else not impressed from the Canon samples?
It looks like the ISO performance is much worse than the D800 at 6400.
It seems from the Canon sample that it blurs out all the fine details at 6400, reminiscent of what crop camera's do, personally I would barely call it usable. Sure the grain isn't too bad, but that's hardly good ISO performance...
No wonder the high ISO wedding portraits are 'coming soon', their faces must look like the are melting.

Also not convinced banding in shadows has been resolved.

http://web.canon.jp …ng/eosd/samples​/eos5dmk3/ (external link)

Below is what I mean

100% Crop 5Diii ISO800
Not bad (although looks a little soft), there is a little chroma, but that's easy to tidy up.
The IQ seems ver 7D like to me.

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100% Crop 5Diii ISO6400
Where has all the detail gone? Why is there not loads of chroma?
Instead there is allot of blotching where chroma likely used to be.
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For comparison, a D800 sample with a touch of Chroma NR in LR3
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Below is another D800 6400 sample, while there is noise, at least the image is still sharp, and has some detail remaining.
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Mar 02, 2012 02:56 |  #656
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Anyone else think this looks like banding noise with ALLOT of NR applied?

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Mar 02, 2012 03:08 |  #657
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Rhys, I completely agree.

But try to point this out in the official 5D2 thread and you will be instantly trolled or ignored.

It seems that the 5D3 "MUST" fullfil all our dreams and be way better than the 5D2, even if its not.

I will wait for more samples and reviews before I make my final conclusion. But yeah, these first samples looks pretty bad.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 03:10 |  #658
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Tonyz wrote in post #14004843 (external link)
Rhys, I completely agree.

Try to point this out in the official 5D2 thread and you will be instantly trolled or ignored.

It seems that the 5D3 "MUST" fullfil all our dreams and be way better than the 5D2, even if its not.

Tbh, if you don't need the AF, I'd save cash and pick up a mkii.


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Mar 02, 2012 07:49 |  #659

IF IQ is like 7D count me out cuz the 7D Blows.


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Mar 02, 2012 08:30 as a reply to  @ RhysPhotograph.Me's post |  #660

Can you list the exifs for the Canon and Nikon images you posted?
I have a feeling that the studio Nikon image is in much better light than the northern lights Canon image. That will make a big difference to the visible noise.

I'd wait to see some high-ISO portrait shots in similar lighting before coming to conclusions.


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