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NEW ST-E3-RT is not compatible with 580EXII = so sad

 
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Mar 01, 2012 22:59 |  #1

not sure why canon is doing this, at least come up with a optional parts so we can still use the 580ex instead of getting the new flash.

Will we see a huge sell off on craigslist for 580 and 430


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Mar 01, 2012 23:08 |  #2
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629.99 for the new flash, and 470 for the transmitter.

Wow.




  
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Mar 01, 2012 23:16 |  #3

Tonyz wrote in post #14003392 (external link)
629.99 for the new flash, and 470 for the transmitter.

Wow.

I have been looking for those numbers!

Looks like i am going to pick up a used (or new if the price drops) 580EX II


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Mar 02, 2012 00:06 |  #4

Looks like they have copied the Phottix Odin, but with out adding a receiver so it works with other EX flashes.

Be interesting to see if the do release a receiver, after the new 600EX has started selling.


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Mar 02, 2012 00:22 |  #5

I'm interested to see what people think of the new flash unit actually.


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Mar 02, 2012 00:29 |  #6

A few questions about this. Canon is loath to present full specs and a 360° view of this device. It might seem rather nitpicky but I'm like the biggest champion of the ST-E2. I've had multiple dialogs in the past via email with Chuck Westfall on an ST-E2 successor, actually.

- Does this have an AF-assist beam? This is a huge dealbreaker for me. I shoot a lot of ambient-light photos with my MK II. While the MK II is an amazing body, the AF is pretty rough in the dark. The ST-E2's beam is great. Assist-beam and fire away.

- Can you use rechargeable AAs in this? The jump to AA batteries rather than increasingly hard-to-find 2CR5 cells is much appreciated. But, you'll still rack up the costs if you can only use alkaline cells due to the voltage.

- Is there a battery life indicator? Hard to tell...

http://dancarrphotogra​phy.com …2/03/ST-E3-RT-DISPLAY.jpg (external link)


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Mar 02, 2012 00:30 |  #7

So this ST-E3 is actually Phottix Odin transmitter rebadged to Canon?


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Mar 02, 2012 00:32 |  #8

pod_canon wrote in post #14004109 (external link)
A few questions about this. Canon is loath to present full specs and a 360° view of this device. It might seem rather nitpicky but I'm like the biggest champion of the ST-E2. I've had multiple dialogs in the past via email with Chuck Westfall on an ST-E2 successor, actually.

- Does this have an AF-assist beam? This is a huge dealbreaker for me. I shoot a lot of ambient-light photos with my MK II. While the MK II is an amazing body, the AF is pretty rough in the dark. The ST-E2's beam is great. Assist-beam and fire away.

- Can you use rechargeable AAs in this? The jump to AA batteries rather than increasingly hard-to-find 2CR5 cells is much appreciated. But, you'll still rack up the costs if you can only use alkaline cells due to the voltage.

- Is there a battery life indicator? Hard to tell...

http://dancarrphotogra​phy.com …2/03/ST-E3-RT-DISPLAY.jpg (external link)

Are those questions you're looking for answer of? I'm only asking because I'd like to know about the AF-ssist as well


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Mar 02, 2012 00:37 |  #9

seoul4korea wrote in post #14004058 (external link)
I'm interested to see what people think of the new flash unit actually.

send it to me and I will tell you :lol:


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Mar 02, 2012 00:39 |  #10

sigma pi wrote in post #14004171 (external link)
send it to me and I will tell you :lol:

LOL I sure you would = ) The back interface kind of reminds me of nikon flash units actually.


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Mar 02, 2012 00:45 |  #11

There are full 360 degree shots on the European canon site and no AF assist light. Sorry.


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Mar 02, 2012 01:01 |  #12

This blows! The new radio flashes, currently, can only be controlled through the in-camera menu of the 1Dx and the 5D3. And now the optical wireless of the T3i/60D/7D are "legacy" products. Canon, the least you could have done is support the wireless flash control menu in the T3i, 60D and 7D. You better release some firmware to make this so, else you suck! Argh!



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Mar 02, 2012 01:39 |  #13

There are two new speedlites a 600 EX RT with radio and a 600 EX with infra red.

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Mar 02, 2012 05:24 |  #14

sempaidavid wrote in post #14004239 (external link)
There are full 360 degree shots on the European canon site and no AF assist light. Sorry.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …e_transmitter_s​t_e3_rt.do (external link)

Crap, you're right.

No sale. Until I upgrade to a body that can pretty much reliably focus in low and intermitten light conditions, I'll need the AF-assist. In a nutshell basically I lock on to the subject in the dark and when the lighting changes enough to compose, I fire away. I shoot concerts, nightclubs, and special events. Basically this scene was pretty much dark until a second before the exposure.

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Mar 02, 2012 05:31 |  #15

The 5D Mk III might be right for you. According to the specs it will autofocus down to -2EV.


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