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OFFICIAL: Canon 5D Mark III Announced

 
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Mar 02, 2012 09:07 |  #781
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Shadowblade wrote in post #14006314 (external link)
I agree the pattern noise problem is gone - there's no evidence of it in the low-ISO images, which was where it was always most evident.



It's also blurred to oblivion with NR.



Again, also blurred to oblivion with NR. You can do the same thing with the 5D2 and achieve similar results.



No, just that the NR they've applied seems to be 1.5 to 2 stops stronger than what you'd normally use. Sure, the noise is gone, but so is all the fine detail.

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Blurring an image to score well in ISO test's is cheating imo


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Mar 02, 2012 09:08 |  #782

Woo Hoo! I'm probably going to get one, but I can be patient and see how it performs first.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:08 |  #783

Man I'd really like to stick with Canon cuz I'm actually impressed with specs. Even considering selling my 1DIV as lately i do way more wedding and portraits than sports & Wildlife but GOD those samples suck. My 5Dc does circles around them in terms of IQ.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:08 |  #784

RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14006333 (external link)
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Blurring an image to score well in ISO test's is cheating imo

Yep - just look at the fur on the toy rat in the DPReview series.

It's so badly blurred that you can hardly tell it's meant to be fur.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 09:09 |  #785
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^^^
That's what I noticed to (even at only ISO 6400), but on the things that don't have fine detail, the noise isn't so bad.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:10 |  #786

bps wrote in post #14006231 (external link)
You'll have to carefully research the camera's specs, wait of real-world results to some out, and then answer that question for yourself based on your own needs. All you'll get at this point is varying opinions...

Bryan

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Mar 02, 2012 09:11 |  #787

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which features did the 5d mark3 miss compared to the d800 (outside the 36mp)?

I think the Metering and Build are some of the features. That could be it. It would be interesting to see how their AF compares.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:11 |  #788

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Samples on DPreview look good all the way to ISO 25600 - pretty impressive. My initial reaction was that the D800 would kill the Mk III in sales, but now I'm not so sure.

There's very little detail in the shots.

Take a close look at the fur on the toy rat. It's blurred to all hell with noise reduction, and just gets blurrier as the ISO increases.

I can do the same thing with a 5D2 and get the same results. Or I could shoot the same scene with a D7000 and get nicely-detailed fur, with a bit of grain at higher ISOs.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 09:13 |  #789

Fricks wrote in post #14006326 (external link)
They say its more weather sealed then 5D II

They've also said in their press release that it's less weather-sealed than the 1-series.

In other words, also less weather-sealed than the D800, D700 and D300. No word yet on how it compares to the 7D's weather sealing.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 09:13 |  #790

Nice review with real life sample images (Pre production model) The noise in the 6400 image is terrible!!

http://blog.jeffascoug​h.com …s-5d-mark-iii-review.html (external link)




  
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Mar 02, 2012 09:14 |  #791

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totally happy with the specs, finally an AF system. not happy with price, will buy used to replace my 1d2.

I agree the specs meet what I hoped they would be.

I wonder if Canon is starting with a high MSRP to protect the existing inventory of 5D II. If they came in sub $3,000 they would have to discount the II to under $2,000 to move it. Maybe they feel this pricing will encourage some price conscious fence sitters to buy the II now. As usual the price will probably drop some after the initial marketing period...and by then the existing II inventory should be gone. I really don't think they worry about the new Nikon and its price.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:15 |  #792

Shadowblade, good to see you got back to your desk at Nikon home office, got your cup of coffee, and are hard at work again.

I missed you.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:17 |  #793

shack wrote in post #14006398 (external link)
I agree the specs meet what I hoped they would be.

I wonder if Canon is starting with a high MSRP to protect the existing inventory of 5D II. If they came in sub $3,000 they would have to discount the II to under $2,000 to move it. Maybe they feel this pricing will encourage some price conscious fence sitters to buy the II now. As usual the price will probably drop some after the initial marketing period...and by then the existing II inventory should be gone. I really don't think they worry about the new Nikon and its price.

We will see when it launches. If they can't keep them in stock, well then they priced it to low. If they can't sell them, they will lower it.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:19 |  #794

Re: the AA filter

Take a look at the ISO 100 samples (from any website - they all show similar features). Now compare them against ISO 100 shots from the 5D2 taken with the same lens.

At ISO 100, there's minimal noise reduction, so you've taken that out of the picture. The pixel density is almost identical, as is the lens, so differences due to diffraction and magnification are out of the picture as well.

Now take a look at the fine details in the shots - the sharpness of each hair on the model's head, the fur on the rat. Much less detailed than the 5D2 shots.

Having eliminated noise reduction, diffraction and lens differences as a cause for the loss of sharpness, there is only one other possible cause - the AA filter.

These images show that the AA filter on the 5D3 is significantly stronger than that on the 5D2.




  
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Mar 02, 2012 09:20 |  #795

shack wrote in post #14006398 (external link)
I agree the specs meet what I hoped they would be.

I wonder if Canon is starting with a high MSRP to protect the existing inventory of 5D II. If they came in sub $3,000 they would have to discount the II to under $2,000 to move it. Maybe they feel this pricing will encourage some price conscious fence sitters to buy the II now. As usual the price will probably drop some after the initial marketing period...and by then the existing II inventory should be gone. I really don't think they worry about the new Nikon and its price.

Also, they I think were making the T2i at least until December of last year. No clue when they will plan on ending production of the 5D2.

Being everything in the 5D3 is new, and the only camera that can use the parts on the 5D2, is the 5D2, it all depends on how many parts they have in the pipeline.

If they have contracts with manufactures to deliver a high enough quantity of parts, they might be making the 5D2 for a while.


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