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Mar 02, 2012 09:52 |  #61
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Fred Meebley wrote in post #14006321 (external link)
Thank you Nikon for the d700 and d800 that forced Canon to up their game. This will be the perfect camera for me after I wear out my 7d.

Indeed, images should be very comparable to the 7D.


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Mar 02, 2012 09:56 |  #62

I have very mixed feelings about the Mark III...

Unsurpassed Image Quality
22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)


Images had better be better than 7D! A FF camera with half the pixel site density on it's sensor should outdo the images from a cropper!

22MP just doesn't seem right. I hear this is some sort of magical number for videography, but that's the least of my concerns... Personally I don't buy a DSLR to shoot video... Though I know many people do.

IMO, this camera should be more like 36MP. However, the sample images I've seen out of the 1DX have been amazing for 18MP... So I'm reserving judgment until I see and know more. The single Digic 5+ processor was pretty much what I expected.

The ISO capabilities sound incredible, but again I'll reserve judgment until I see real life results and examples.


High Performance Operation
61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles


61 Point AF is a surprise to me, in spite of the rumors... I'm surprise it's so similar to 1DX. Though I doubt the 5DIII has a discrete AF processor the way the 1DX does.... And the 5DIII only has a single Digic 5+. So I wouldn't expect AF performance to actually be the same. But I really expected something more than the 19 point system from 7D. (Maybe this gives us a clue, what to expect on the 7D Mark II.)

I'm not surpised by the "intelligent" viewfinder, which I assume is an active matrix/transmissive LCD focus screen... which meands no interchangeable focus screens, but a configurable screen with grid on demand and electronic level.... all ala 7D and 1DX. This will be fine for me, but I know one of the appeals of earlier 5D models for many people was ability to easily interchange manual focus optimized and other specialty screens. Oh well, there will probably be third party screens, though... Same as there are for 7D.

I don't see 100% viewfinder as a big deal. I think the Mark II was 98% anyway (better than the 5DC and D700, both of which were about 95% if memory serves). I guess Canon felt they needed to match the D800.

I sort of wish the LCD were articulated, ala 60D/T3i. I know some people don't like this, but they simply don't have to use it if they don't want to. Personally I can see many possible still photography uses... And would think it would really appeal to videographers in particular. And an articulated LCD can be turned face-in to protect it while traveling, or perhaps to discourage me from chimping.

The metering system sounds like the same in all the other current models, which is fine. The shutter durabillity rating is the same as Mark II, also fine.


High end features
Silent & low vibration modes
Dual card slots (CF & SD)
High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
Multiple Exposures
Comparative Playback function
Improved durability & water and dust resistance


I'm glad to hear about quiet mode, but reserve judgment until I see how well it works. My Mark II is rather noisy (and I know Canon can build quiet FF cameras, see the Elan 7/EOS 30/33 models from ten + years ago).

I guess low vibration mode is to offset mirror slap and resulting camera shake. That's another thing I'll need to reserve judgment about, until I see how it works.

Dual card slots... CF and SD? Really? Did you have left overs from the 1D series or something Canon? Finally got it right in the 1DX.. two CF slots. Now you take a big step backwards with mixed memory types again... why? Maybe because Nikon did the same in the D800? On a positive note, SD memory has come a long way in the past couple years, is much more useful stuff now. I still don't like the fingernail size cards - too easy to lose or forget in a pocket when I finally get around to doing my laundry.

HDR and Multi Exposure modes.... I want to know more... In part it appears to be expanded bracketing capabilities... more than just 3 frames, very cool! About time, in fact! That was needed and probably wasn't a very big deal to implement.

I dunno about the comparative playback thing... looking for more info about that.

And I still wouldn't plan to use the camera out in a rainstorm without some protection.

SPECIFICATIONS
Available Colours – Black
Megapixels – 22MP
Sensor Size – 36 x 24mm
ISO/Sensitivity – 100 – 25600
Autofocus Points – 61 points
Lens Mount – Canon
LCD Size – 3.2″
Liveview – Yes
Viewfinder – Optical TTL
Min Shutter Speed – 30 sec
Max Shutter Speed – 1/8000 sec
Continuous Shooting Speed – 6 fps
Self Timer – 10 sec, 2 sec
Metering – Centre-weighted, Spot, Evaluative, Partial
Video Resolution – Full HD 1080
Memory Type – Compact Flash
Connectivity – USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)
Battery – LP-E6
Battery Type – Lithium-ion
Charger – Includes Li-Ion Charger
File Formats – AVI, RAW, H.264, MOV, MPEG-4
Dimensions – 152 x 116 x 76mm
Box Contents – Battery Pack LP-E6 .. Battery Charger LC-E6 .. AV Cable AVC-DC400ST .. Interface Cable IFC-200U .. Eyecup Eg .. Wide Strap EWEOS5DMKIII .. CR1616 Lithium Battery+


Black is my favorite color for a camera! Cool! ;)

Some of the accessories that have been announced along with the 5D Mark III sound interesting:

The new Radio Triggered flash system, including 600EX-RT Speedlite and ST-E3-RT controller module... FANTASTIC! It's about time! This will be more useful off-camera and for multi-flash setups, than the older optically controlled flashes. Of course, it won't work with the built-in wireless flash control of some camera models... Oh well, can't win em all!

The new Wireless Transmitter WFT-E7A appears to NOT replace the grip, too, but instead mounts on the side of the camera the same way the 1D series' do... Excellent! Now Canon just needs to offer a single WFT that works with all the cameras, including older ones... There's no reason a WFT should be model specific, any more than a flash or lens or strap.

Still looking for more info on the BG-E11 vertical grip, but it appears to have a joystick, which is great for those of us who shoot a lot of vertical oriented shots. Bravo, Canon! (I know, you really didn't have any choice, had to do this competitively.)

According to Canon.... "The EOS 5D Mark III inherits many features from Canon's recently announced flagship DSLR, the EOS-1D X, including a DIGIC 5+ Imaging Processor and a high-performance 61-point High Density Reticular AF array with up to 41 cross-type points and five dual cross-type points available, depending on the lens in use. The enhanced processing power enables fast continuous shooting of up to six fps, exceeding the speed of the EOS 5D Mark II model by more than 50 percent, and with improved weather resistance the EOS 5D Mark III is a serious option for sports and wildlife photographers."

Sort of makes me wonder why I'd spend twice as much for another Canon FF model that has lower resolution. I don't really need 12-14 fps. 400K shutter would be nice, but 150K is quite good. 102K ISO is more than enough for me. All in all, 5D Mark III sounds good... Over-spec AF improvements, nice frame rate, but under-spec resolution from a competitive standpoint. High ISO performance remains to be seen, along with some other things. I'm not sure the 5DIII is worth $1000 more than the 5DII, or if the Canon is worth $500 more than a 36MP D800. Unless "the Dark Side" raises their prices, I imagine the "street price" for the Mark III will have to drop pretty darned quickly.

Like some others, I suspect Canon will soon be offering at least one more FF model... It might be called a 1DXs, or a 5DX, or perhaps the mythical 3D (though that might confuse videographers).. Canon doesn't have much choice but to come up with a 36MP+ model to remain competitive. It's interesting that Canon says the 5DII will remain in the model line for a while, as a lower spec, lower priced model (appears the street price on it will be closer to $1999 US)... that might just be marketing-speak for "we still have a lot of brand-spanking-new 5DII's in stores and in the pipeline, so please buy them", as has been the case with other models in the past.

Okay, so let's get the inevitable questions started: "5D Mark III now? Or should I wait for 5D Mark IV?" :rolleyes:


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Mar 02, 2012 10:14 |  #63

RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14006729 (external link)
Indeed, images should be very comparable to the 7D.

And thats a good thing? LOL.. ya right


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Mar 02, 2012 10:18 |  #64

I figured that no one would buy it because it has an extra slot for an SD card. The rep around here is that if it use a SD card its a toy. I know that has to sting a little to ones who made that statement and that are now wanting to buy such a toy. Karma!


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Mar 02, 2012 10:30 |  #65

$3500 price tag is such fail.


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Mar 02, 2012 10:31 |  #66

Razeus wrote in post #14006994 (external link)
$3500 price tag is such fail.

i feel the same way :(




  
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Mar 02, 2012 10:32 |  #67

gjl711 wrote in post #14006400 (external link)
I've been spending the morning looking at the samples and comparing them to some of my MkII pics and I got to say, I'm not really seeing much of an improvement at all. The high ISO samples 3200, 6400 are heavily noise reduced and when I take a 6400 MkII pic and crank up the NR, it's almost identical. I know it's too early to really make a real assessment, but I'm not getting that WOW!! feeling.

bw! Sums it up for me as well. As a current 5DM2 owner, I am curious about the marketing process behind this launch. Good camera-sure, of course, Canon makes great stuff. But this time, no wow factor. Certainly no ,"oh man, I need to trade in my Mark2 for this."

Now someone looking to move up from a lesser body perhaps would be more enthusiastic, but then, unless your heavily invested in glass, there is that D800 at $500 less factor pulling on your coattail.......;)


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Mar 02, 2012 10:38 |  #68

the same for me, i dont have the WOW feeling due to high price and less mp compare to nikon 800

but glad to see new AF system and good speed 6 FPS

maybe canon will release a new FF camera with more MP and less speed ( FPS)- for studio/ landscaper

let's wait the full review of the mark 3


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Mar 02, 2012 10:45 |  #69

Canon still prevails. Amateurs will switch, but I think most pros with Canon will still stick with the 5D3 for improved IQ over the D800. Nikon will get you in on the slightly cheaper body, but you will more than pay back for it in the lens prices.


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Mar 02, 2012 11:03 |  #70

frankwite wrote in post #14006917 (external link)
I figured that no one would buy it because it has an extra slot for an SD card. The rep around here is that if it use a SD card its a toy. I know that has to sting a little to ones who made that statement and that are now wanting to buy such a toy. Karma!

No, that isn't the issue at all... at least not for me. Memory is memory.

Until the last couple years, SD memory lagged behind CF memory's write speed and capacity. Now it's caught up, so this is no longer much of an issue. In some cases, SD can even be a little cheaper, a good thing.

And, more computers have built in SD readers than have CF... Especially laptops, pads and other highly portable computers. So in that respect SD might have an edge (though I really don't have much problem using my ExpressCard CF reader in my laptop).

More of concern to me, having to buy and carry around a couple different types of memory.

And personally I just don't care for the small SD (and some other even smaller) cards. For me they are more easily fumbled and dropped in the dirt with when changing, more easily lost, more easily forgotten in a jeans pocket when the pants get thrown in the laundry.

For me, the CF card size is great. But I'm an old shooter and remember buying bricks of film (20 rolls) to equal what a single card can capture for me now. I remember having to change out a 36 exposure roll of film after a 5 second burst with my EOS-3s. With some types of film I loaded my own rolls, in part so I could get 40 shots per roll. And I remember great big "long roll" film backs that made it possible to capture 250 images on a roll of film, but required special handling for processing.

After a decade or more putting two different types of memory in their multi-slot camera, Canon finally went with two CF slots in the 1DX. In their multi-slot cameras, Nikon had always gone with two CF. It seemed like Canon was just being stubborn, but finally saw the light.

Then along comes the 5DIII reverting to two different types of memory. Kind of disappointing to me. And Nikon has done the same in their D800... Not sure if it's the first model where they've done this.

I just hate the thought, too, of having to replace a bunch (16 at present) of memory cards again. The handwriting might be on the wall: 60D is SD only. 5DII and D800 are CF + SD. It might just be a matter of time until other cameras adopt the SD format and all my CF memory cards become worthless dust-gatherers. Planned obsolescence!

Now, I fully understand some folks might find different types of memory useful: perhaps putting JPEGs on one and RAW on the other, or stills on one and video clips on the other. Different types of memory might make it easier to differentiate their workflow.

But - just speaking for myself - though I appreciate that Canon has put two slots in the 5DIII, I wish it were two CF slots instead of taking a step backward (in my opinion) to two different memory types.


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Mar 02, 2012 11:04 |  #71

amfoto1 wrote in post #14007215 (external link)
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But - just speaking for myself - though I appreciate that Canon has put two slots in the 5DIII, I wish it were two CF slots instead of taking a step backward (in my opinion) to two different memory types.

I'm glad the direction is towards SD memory cards (like everything else)




  
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Mar 02, 2012 11:18 |  #72

watt100 wrote in post #14007226 (external link)
I'm glad the direction is towards SD memory cards (like everything else)

+1! My macbook pro has a slot for sd and I love it. Card readers bore me.


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Mar 02, 2012 11:24 |  #73

I've read conflicting reports about whether or not the 5DIII does facial tracking like the 1DX. I demoed a 1DX and the live facial tracking was pretty astonishing, does the 5DIII have this feature? I know the D800 has face/color tracking etc just like the 1DX and the D4


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Mar 02, 2012 11:30 as a reply to  @ snaphappyphotography's post |  #74

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Mar 02, 2012 11:32 |  #75

no way!!! that's so awesome! you buying the 5DIII?


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