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OFFICIAL: Canon 5D Mark III Announced

 
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Mar 03, 2012 06:43 |  #1756
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Well, I think this image pretty much drives home what this camera is capable of, or, rather, not capable of:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …_mark_iii/12_ci​nc_big.jpg (external link)


Despite the excellent lens (400 f/2.8L at f/4), the proper shutter speed (1/800th of a second), the low ISO (ISO 100), and the obviously in-focus image, the result still lacks the per-pixel detail you'd expect.

Normally I might chalk this up to a bad JPEG engine in the camera, but according to the EXIF data, this shot was processed with DPP, which means this is from the raw image.

Oh. My. Gawd. :shock:


We'll have to wait for the camera to hit the streets before we really see what it's capable of, but the 7D puts the images such as the above to shame. This camera will fall down hard if it's really as bad at retaining detail as the above image suggests it might be.

Again, I feel sorry for the hopeless optimists who have placed a preorder on this camera.

I won't do anything before I've seen some proper reviews and comparisons.


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Mar 03, 2012 06:48 |  #1757

Ricku wrote in post #14013271 (external link)
Again, I feel sorry for the hopeless optimists who have placed a preorder on this camera.

Preorders can be canceled and cameras can be returned. No need to feel sorry. ;)




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:00 |  #1758

kcbrown wrote in post #14013177 (external link)
Well, I think this image pretty much drives home what this camera is capable of, or, rather, not capable of:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …_mark_iii/12_ci​nc_big.jpg (external link)


Despite the excellent lens (400 f/2.8L at f/4), the proper shutter speed (1/800th of a second), the low ISO (ISO 100), and the obviously in-focus image, the result still lacks the per-pixel detail you'd expect.

Normally I might chalk this up to a bad JPEG engine in the camera, but according to the EXIF data, this shot was processed with DPP, which means this is from the raw image.

Oh. My. Gawd. :shock:


We'll have to wait for the camera to hit the streets before we really see what it's capable of, but the 7D puts the images such as the above to shame. This camera will fall down hard if it's really as bad at retaining detail as the above image suggests it might be.

Good catch to point this one out. I'm asking because I don't know:
Any chance this was handheld? Doubtful with a 400 2.8 but 1/800 isn't a great shutter speed if handholding a huge lens. Doesn't really look it to me but I'm not great at that kind of analysis. Of course even if it was or if there's some other technical explanation for the appearance of this one I'd still fault Canon for using it as an example .


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Mar 03, 2012 07:03 as a reply to  @ dgrPhotos's post |  #1759

Does anyone know if the 5D mkIII instruction manual (PDF) is out yet, don’t see it on Canon’s web site.


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Mar 03, 2012 07:04 |  #1760

Canon should have simply used popular Canon photogs to use the 5D3 and display their own galleries with it. Similar to this: http://imaging.nikon.c​om …/microsite/d800​/index.htm (external link)




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:13 |  #1761

kcbrown wrote in post #14013177 (external link)
Well, I think this image pretty much drives home what this camera is capable of, or, rather, not capable of:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …_mark_iii/12_ci​nc_big.jpg (external link)


Despite the excellent lens (400 f/2.8L at f/4), the proper shutter speed (1/800th of a second), the low ISO (ISO 100), and the obviously in-focus image, the result still lacks the per-pixel detail you'd expect.

Normally I might chalk this up to a bad JPEG engine in the camera, but according to the EXIF data, this shot was processed with DPP, which means this is from the raw image.

Oh. My. Gawd. :shock:


We'll have to wait for the camera to hit the streets before we really see what it's capable of, but the 7D puts the images such as the above to shame. This camera will fall down hard if it's really as bad at retaining detail as the above image suggests it might be.

This image actually looks oversharpened on my monitor - stair-stepping whiskers, for starters...?

Is that happening on anyone else's? :(


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Mar 03, 2012 07:20 |  #1762

Ricku wrote in post #14013271 (external link)
Again, I feel sorry for the hopeless optimists who have placed a preorder on this camera.

"feeling sorry" is not enough
There were "hopeless optimists" who believed in the 5D and 5D2 and now you are telling them the 5D3 has no hope?




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:20 |  #1763

Am I the only one feeling that there's some kind of conspiracies between Canon and Nikon that they team up together to design the opposite of what their previous model used to be, so making all consumers shuffle camps and jump to the other brand hence boosting both companies' sales on their lenses and accessories?

after all, they are corporation that view profit as their priority.


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Mar 03, 2012 07:23 |  #1764

john0213 wrote in post #14013369 (external link)
Am I the only one feeling that there's some kind of conspiracies between Canon and Nikon that they team up together to design the opposite of what their previous model used to be, so making all consumers shuffle camps and jump to the other brand hence boosting both companies' sales on their lenses and accessories?

after all, they are corporation that view profit as their priority.

It could be a big conspiracy ..... if you are a conspiracy theorist.
Do you believe camera decisions come from the Tri-lateral Commission ?




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:34 |  #1765

It might not even have anything to do with Tri-lateral Commission. My feeling comes from the fact that Japanese has an extremely indifferent corporation culture unlike the western world, it's not their first time competing corporation teaming up together in achieving benefit for both sides.

For example, the unspoken gentlemen agreement back in the day when all Japanese automotive manufactures were not allow to make cars exceeding 280hp. This unwritten and unspoken agreement held only up to recently that Japanese automotive manufactures no longer follow such rules.


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Mar 03, 2012 07:44 |  #1766

john0213 wrote in post #14013369 (external link)
Am I the only one feeling that there's some kind of conspiracies between Canon and Nikon that they team up together to design the opposite of what their previous model used to be, so making all consumers shuffle camps and jump to the other brand hence boosting both companies' sales on their lenses and accessories?

after all, they are corporation that view profit as their priority.

It is possible, this is a classic "Prisoner's Dilemma" Nash equilibrium situation
http://en.wikipedia.or​g …ssic_prisoners.​27_dilemma (external link)


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Mar 03, 2012 07:48 |  #1767

john0213 wrote in post #14013391 (external link)
It might not even have anything to do with Tri-lateral Commission. My feeling comes from the fact that Japanese has an extremely indifferent corporation culture unlike the western world, it's not their first time competing corporation teaming up together in achieving benefit for both sides.

For example, the unspoken gentlemen agreement back in the day when all Japanese automotive manufactures were not allow to make cars exceeding 280hp. This unwritten and unspoken agreement held only up to recently that Japanese automotive manufactures no longer follow such rules.


"Keiretsu" Conspiracy !

The Chinese probably play some part of this conspiracy, a manipulation behind the scenes




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:49 |  #1768
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john0213 wrote in post #14013391 (external link)
It might not even have anything to do with Tri-lateral Commission. My feeling comes from the fact that Japanese has an extremely indifferent corporation culture unlike the western world, it's not their first time competing corporation teaming up together in achieving benefit for both sides.

For example, the unspoken gentlemen agreement back in the day when all Japanese automotive manufactures were not allow to make cars exceeding 280hp. This unwritten and unspoken agreement held only up to recently that Japanese automotive manufactures no longer follow such rules.

True, and I wouldn't be very surprised if there is some kind of agreement between Canon and Nikon.




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:54 |  #1769

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Reminds me of 7D files...

you obviously have seen bad examples posted or had a bad experience with the 7D ... :confused:




  
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Mar 03, 2012 07:57 |  #1770
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Tsmith wrote in post #14013458 (external link)
you obviously have seen bad examples posted or had a bad experience with the 7D ... :confused:

yup! It really looks like a bad 7D sample.




  
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