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Mar 03, 2012 12:42 |  #10156

The Devil wrote in post #14013567 (external link)
The problem with XXXD bodies (what you people call Rebel bodies) is their size and that they don't sit well in the hand.
The size differential between a 5D and an XXXD body to an outside observer and also when travelling or whatever is negligible based on my experience, but the slight size difference makes the 5D body much better to hold on to.
.....And also a camera body that actually fits in ones hand.

After purchasing of 70-200 lens my Rebel was really small with this lens and unbalanced.
Adding of grip was simple and much more effective solution compare to 5d. Two batteries and allows better holding with same controls in portrait orientation. But Rebel with 35F2 on it without grip is very compact and light kit. I have two choices, while 5d with grip is too big and heavy, IMO.


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Mar 03, 2012 13:44 as a reply to  @ kf095's post |  #10157

It is a bit cold (for us) here in New Orleans. I pulled up a June shot of the French Quarter which warmed me up. It also had another benefit. With the debut of the new 5D III, and all its goodies, and the bombardment of ads from the various vendors, that rat part of my brain began to plot how to (1) afford the new model, and (2) how to sneak it into the house without the wife noticing it. I saw where the 5D III is still being paired with the 24-105, and after seeing the Quarter scene, taken with the 24-105, the temptation has gone away - at least for now.
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Mar 03, 2012 14:24 |  #10158

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Mar 03, 2012 16:35 |  #10159

I just got my 5D in January, and I think I'll be keeping it.;)
Today I mounted my 300mm f/4 for the first time; I suspect it'll be the last time too, as the 300mm seems much better on a 40D. I'll reserve the 5D for the 24-105mm and the shorter lenses.

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Mar 03, 2012 17:11 |  #10160

kf095 wrote in post #14014864 (external link)
After purchasing of 70-200 lens my Rebel was really small with this lens and unbalanced.
Adding of grip was simple and much more effective solution compare to 5d. Two batteries and allows better holding with same controls in portrait orientation. But Rebel with 35F2 on it without grip is very compact and light kit. I have two choices, while 5d with grip is too big and heavy, IMO.

Well it comes down to what lenses you use. Also, an XXXD body + grip is larger than a 5D without a grip. Personally I couldn't really use my old 400D comfortably without a grip (and even then it was pretty crappy to hold on to).
Also, a 5D with a 50mm F1.8 is also very compact and light, the size/weight differential is negligible between that and an XXXD body + a 35mm F2 lens, while the comfort difference is massive in that case. The grip areas on the XXXD/Rebel bodies is just too thin and small, even with a battery grip, which provide more vertical room for your hand to hold on to, but makes no difference in terms of depth of the grip area.
But yes, the variations of 70-200 lenses are all bloody massive and pretty unbalanced on prettymuch anything (including a gripped XXXD body, though not as bad as without a grip).

Anyways, it is obviously a matter of preference, just personally I'd never switch back to an XXXD body even if I'd gain a massive boost in resolution and whatnot. A better sensor is useless if the body is dreadful to hold on to - the photos I'd generate would suck more on average.

Another great thing about the 5D vs the XXXD bodies is the large viewfinder, I always considered the tiny ones in the XXXD bodies just too small, in fact I even bought a magnifying eyepiece to alleviate the situation a wee bit, but the one on the 5D is still much better.

But I do see why some would prefer a newer XXXD body over the 5Dc. More resolution, live view, better screens and... um... that's about it. The crop factor can be an advantage or a disadvantage, depends on ones' preferences. In my case it was a disadvantage, I don't really like using lenses longer than a 50mm or so (or more specifically the field of view of one, on a FF camera - on a crop a 50mm is just too long for my taste). Some prefer longer lenses, in which case crop bodies are indeed the better choice. More resolution is nice too, atleast in some cases.


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Mar 03, 2012 19:55 |  #10161

Got to shoot a friends B7 A4 Avant stanced on Rota Grids and use my new soft boxes. Used the 5D & the 85mm.

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Mar 03, 2012 20:18 |  #10162

I have a pretty noob question. Say I take a photo at 30mm, at f2.8, then step back a bit and take it at 75mm f2.8, will I get better bokeh and a shallower DOF?


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Mar 03, 2012 20:45 as a reply to  @ Aiden's post |  #10163

Earlier post with image cropped to feature the street band, and a filter applied.....a different look.....Joe

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Mar 03, 2012 21:11 |  #10164

Aiden wrote in post #14017210 (external link)
I have a pretty noob question. Say I take a photo at 30mm, at f2.8, then step back a bit and take it at 75mm f2.8, will I get better bokeh and a shallower DOF?

http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link) for dof.
You'll get more blurry background at 75 2.8.


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Mar 03, 2012 21:17 |  #10165

Thanks for the help boss.


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Mar 03, 2012 22:01 as a reply to  @ post 13409147 |  #10166

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Mar 03, 2012 23:09 |  #10167

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Mar 04, 2012 00:55 |  #10168
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Mar 04, 2012 01:33 |  #10169

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