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Mar 04, 2012 13:17 |  #31

OP. If you want to shoot birds, and more specifically flying birds, there is no better lens at any price than the 400 5.6. If you want to shoot "wildlife," then I would recommend the 100-400, or 300+TC options. Both will still work and do well for birds as well, but certainly will excel in other areas the 400 will falter.

Me personally, the 400 5.6 is my favorite lens, and I would never sell it. But I use it for BIF, and that is about it. Everything about the lens lends itself to it, light weight, razor sharp wide open, fast af, easy to maneuver, comparatively compact, long minimum focus distance helps prevent focus searching, no IS since you will be shooting over 1/500th anyway, ect. All this makes it perfect for birds, many of those things will also limit you in other areas. I happen to be a tele-photo-a-haulic, so I have other lenses for those situations.


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Mar 04, 2012 13:23 |  #32

TheMissouriShooter wrote in post #14019794 (external link)
I leaning towards the 500mm f4 or 600mm f4, excluding the cost factor is there any reason I should consider something different?

Are you talking about the new II series lenses, currently unreleased, or the retired version I IS lenses? Assuming the version 1:
The 500 F4 will be lighter, and therefore much better for treking around, and even occasionally handholding. The 600 F4 will give you more reach, but with a big tradeoff of mobility, due to extra weight and size.

The new version II 600 will be the same weight as the old 500 F4, which should be killer. But it also has a killer price tag and no known release date.

TheMissouriShooter wrote in post #14019807 (external link)
Also - off subject ( sorry ) but for wildlife photography, I'm also adding another Canon body. I'm considering the 1Dx or the 5DMKIII, which would you consider?

What body(s) do you have now?
If you are looking to buy one of the "big boys" I would say neither of the above honestly. Preferably I would say the 1D MKIV, for the 1.3 crop (after all you are paying for a high MM lens here) and the F8 AF (allowing you to AF with a 2x TC on these two lenses that both take TC's very well). The 7D is also another nice option, very advanced AF, 1.6x crop (again, this is a telephoto lens, not a wide angle, more reach is the goal), and very nicely built.

I really can't see the 5d3 for the purpose, since 6fps is just NOT QUITE enough for serious action photography. The 1DX would certainly do the job, but it will be very pricey, and untested, and I don't think you will loose much shooting with a 1DMKIV until the price settles on the new models and bugs and kinks get worked out.


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Mar 04, 2012 15:28 |  #33

In reference to the 500mm f4 and 600mm f4 , I'm waiting for the version II's to be released. I'm currently using a 50D as my main body and a XSi as my back up. I'm all ears : )


1Dx MKII | 1Dx | 5D MKIV | 5D MKIII | 5Ds r | 5Ds | 7D MKII | 7D | G16 | G3x | EOS M & M3 | 800 f5.6 | 600 f4 | 400 f2.8 | 300 f2.8 | 200-400 f4 | 100-400 f4.5 - 5.6 II x 2 | 70-200 f2.8 | 14 f2.8 II | 50 f1.2 | 50 1.4 | 85 f1.2 | 135 f2 | 24-70 f2.8 II | 11-24 f4 | 35 f1.4 II | Pentax 645Z | SMC Pentax-DA 645 25mm F4 AL | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 55mm F2.8 AL | Pentax 90mm f/2.8 D FA 645 Macro ED AW SR | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 200mm f/4 IF | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 300mm f/4 ED IF | SMC FA 645 400mm f/5.6 ED IF Lens

  
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Mar 04, 2012 15:31 |  #34

Also, I currently own a 1.4 Canon Extender.


1Dx MKII | 1Dx | 5D MKIV | 5D MKIII | 5Ds r | 5Ds | 7D MKII | 7D | G16 | G3x | EOS M & M3 | 800 f5.6 | 600 f4 | 400 f2.8 | 300 f2.8 | 200-400 f4 | 100-400 f4.5 - 5.6 II x 2 | 70-200 f2.8 | 14 f2.8 II | 50 f1.2 | 50 1.4 | 85 f1.2 | 135 f2 | 24-70 f2.8 II | 11-24 f4 | 35 f1.4 II | Pentax 645Z | SMC Pentax-DA 645 25mm F4 AL | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 55mm F2.8 AL | Pentax 90mm f/2.8 D FA 645 Macro ED AW SR | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 200mm f/4 IF | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 300mm f/4 ED IF | SMC FA 645 400mm f/5.6 ED IF Lens

  
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Mar 04, 2012 15:32 |  #35

Also relocating to Naples, FL I notice you lived in the Keys


1Dx MKII | 1Dx | 5D MKIV | 5D MKIII | 5Ds r | 5Ds | 7D MKII | 7D | G16 | G3x | EOS M & M3 | 800 f5.6 | 600 f4 | 400 f2.8 | 300 f2.8 | 200-400 f4 | 100-400 f4.5 - 5.6 II x 2 | 70-200 f2.8 | 14 f2.8 II | 50 f1.2 | 50 1.4 | 85 f1.2 | 135 f2 | 24-70 f2.8 II | 11-24 f4 | 35 f1.4 II | Pentax 645Z | SMC Pentax-DA 645 25mm F4 AL | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 55mm F2.8 AL | Pentax 90mm f/2.8 D FA 645 Macro ED AW SR | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 200mm f/4 IF | SMC Pentax-D FA 645 300mm f/4 ED IF | SMC FA 645 400mm f/5.6 ED IF Lens

  
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Mar 04, 2012 17:21 |  #36

Billginthekeys wrote in post #14021094 (external link)
I really can't see the 5d3 for the purpose, since 6fps is just NOT QUITE enough for serious action photography.

NOT QUITE but so close.
I think you could a few good shots with 6 fps




  
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Mar 04, 2012 17:24 |  #37

6 FPS is fine for wildlife.


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Mar 04, 2012 17:33 |  #38

I didn't say 6 fps is bad, it is a heck of a lot better than 3 or 4. Still even 8 would have been perfectly enough for just about anything. 6 certainly isnt in the same league as 12fps or even 10. When you are shooting a moving subject every fraction of a second can dramatically change the subject pose and framing.


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Mar 04, 2012 17:37 |  #39

TheMissouriShooter wrote in post #14021880 (external link)
Also relocating to Naples, FL I notice you lived in the Keys

Well you are definitely going to be in the right place for birding, I travel to the west coast of FL to bird whenever I can.


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Mar 04, 2012 18:22 |  #40

I find my 100 400 very versatile.

I'm surprised no one brought up Sigs Big Mama..


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Mar 04, 2012 19:12 |  #41

I like the 100-400 for its versatility, as well. I shoot mainly wildlife but also birds, including BIF. And while the 400 prime would be better for the latter, I can't complain about the results I am getting.

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Mar 04, 2012 19:49 as a reply to  @ JuliusUpNorth's post |  #42

300L f/4 with 1.4 TC. I am happy with the quality. AF is much slower but not unusable.


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Mar 04, 2012 20:48 |  #43

I own both and can't tell the difference between the two.
The 100-400 has two advantages. 1. IS 2. Zoom




  
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Mar 04, 2012 21:08 |  #44

HKGuns wrote in post #14024004 (external link)
I own both and can't tell the difference between the two.
The 100-400 has two advantages. 1. IS 2. Zoom

The above is true, but the 400mm 5.6 prime has the advantage of better IQ. The prime really is a great lens. I can also confirm that the 400mm prime is definetly sharper than the 300mm f4 with a 1.4X. But the 300mm is a great lens as well.




  
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Mar 04, 2012 21:26 |  #45

I've played with the 300/4 + 1.4x, the 400/5.6 and the 100-400. While the 400/5.6 is probably the sharpest, I found it (by far) the hardest to use. The combination of a slow lens and no IS made it nearly impossible for me to hand-hold it and point it near the subject.

But that's just me. Many others have had lots of success with this lens.

My trips to reserves have had animals at all sorts of distances - lions and (once) a leopard within a metre of my vehicle. Elephants within three metres. A long lens will not offer much except a view of the occasional eyeball... so the 100-400 is a better choice. It's more than sharp enough too.

You didn't ask about it, but could I suggest you also look at the 70-300L.... it's a very fine piece of glass indeed.


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