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Mar 04, 2012 16:08 |  #1

Im hoping someone can help me out here... i pre-ordered this from BH the other day, price is 3499$ + landed cost 310.55$ + shipping
I live in Quebec ( a non HST province) so I have always been charged: price + 5% for GST (plus a very small amount i presume for brokerage or something) + shipping ... example a previous order of 1599$ got charged a "landed cost" of 84.96$ which is basically 5% plus 5$
But this time the landed cost makes no sense, 5% of 3499$ is 175$, which is nowhere near 310.55$ ... i double checked, there are no "duties" to be paid on cameras, just tax so does anybody understand whats going on here?




  
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Mar 04, 2012 19:32 |  #2

I assume you chose the "B&H customs clearance".... as a posed to "pay on delivery"?

In the Shipping options, where it says Duties and taxes $310.55....If you click on the "duties and taxes" it will bring up a popup window that details what all the charges are.


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Mar 04, 2012 19:35 |  #3

Are you selecting the shipping Via Purolator? If you ship via Purolator, B&H collects the GST and
they have a low low low Shipping charge, and no fees to cross the border. See below.
The Customs Clearance includes the GST.

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Mar 04, 2012 19:37 |  #4

BTW.... I never choose the B&H customs because it ALWAYS seems to be more than UPS at the door.


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Mar 04, 2012 19:40 |  #5

quijibo69 wrote in post #14023494 (external link)
BTW.... I never choose the B&H customs because it ALWAYS seems to be more than UPS at the door.

But UPS adds extra fees for crossing the border, even with Air any more.
The Purolator Shipping is consistantly cheaper for the last 4 orders I
have placed with them. And they collect nothing at the door. You already
payed the taxes.

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Mar 04, 2012 21:18 |  #6

Evan Idler wrote in post #14023490 (external link)

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I just tried and got the same number and breakdown ( 3499 + 25.05 + 184.41) .


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Mar 04, 2012 21:41 |  #7

Evan Idler wrote in post #14023516 (external link)
But UPS adds extra fees for crossing the border, even with Air any more.
The Purolator Shipping is consistantly cheaper for the last 4 orders I
have placed with them. And they collect nothing at the door. You already
payed the taxes.

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Not from my experience....

UPS air (worldwide express & worldwide saver) includes brokerage fees in the total.... just pay TAX at the door.

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All of them cost less at the door than B&H quoted for their clearance :D

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Mar 04, 2012 22:58 |  #8

Evan Idler wrote in post #14023490 (external link)
Are you selecting the shipping Via Purolator? If you ship via Purolator, B&H collects the GST and
they have a low low low Shipping charge, and no fees to cross the border. See below.
The Customs Clearance includes the GST.

--Evan


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I did exactly as you have shown and it charged me 310.55$, i did the checkout again just now and i got the same as you just got so perhaps there was some sort of technical error in the calculator. I actually contacted BH this afternoon about this and i was told "the price listed is the amount it costs", seemingly ignoring my explanation.




  
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Mar 04, 2012 23:09 |  #9

UPS's shipping fee (45.00) is almost twice the Purolator Shipping Fees($25.05),
and UPS adds a Mimimum $10.00 fee for collecting the taxes, unless you have
prepaid them for the taxes they collect or have an Account with them that you
have set up Automatic Electronic Funds Transefer on. Yes, the Brokerage Fee's
are free for simple transaction, but they still charge this Bond Fee.

http://www.ups.com …es/customs_clea​rance.html (external link)

Bond Fees
Customers are responsible for payment of duties and taxes. When funds are not
provided in advance by the customer, and UPS must post a bond to allow UPS shipments
to be released in advance of payment to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), a
fee of 2.7 percent (minimum $6.00 on Worldwide Standard™; minimum $10 on UPS
Worldwide Express Plus™, UPS Worldwide Express™, UPS Worldwide Express Saver™ and
UPS Worldwide Expedited™) of the amount advanced by UPS will be charged. To avoid
bond fees, call 1-800-PICK-UPS and ask about our Prepayment or Electronic Funds
Transfer (EFT) plans.

The other pain in the butt with UPS is they will no longer accept Cash at the door.
So if I'm not going to be home, I either have to leave a check for someone else to
pay them, or drive over to their warehouse to pick up the package.

With the Purolator Shipping, there is no payments required at the door.
Anyone in the house can sign for it, and it's done.

--Evan


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Mar 04, 2012 23:21 |  #10

bfinta wrote in post #14025036 (external link)
I did exactly as you have shown and it charged me 310.55$, i did the checkout again just now and i got the same as you just got so perhaps there was some sort of technical error in the calculator. I actually contacted BH this afternoon about this and i was told "the price listed is the amount it costs", seemingly ignoring my explanation.

That's is very possible. Maybe they mentioned it to someone and it was fixed.

If you currently select New Brunswick they are charging 18.2% HST
instead of 15% and Newfoundland is coming up at $0.00 taxes.

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Mar 04, 2012 23:51 |  #11

There's still a problem with the B&H tax & duty calculator for the 5D Mark III -- I've had a flurry of e-mails from people "complaining" that Ontario comes up at 0% tax. I too have sent an e-mail into various contacts at B&H and hopefully it will be resolved soon.

My $0.02 on the Purolator Ground vs. UPS question, as there are many different issues at play:

  • Generally the Purolator fee (shipping + brokerage + disbursement fee) is about half that of the UPS (shipping + bond) fee.
  • If you're in a non-HST province, Purolator Ground only incurs GST (and saves the PST/QST). UPS always incurs GST + PST/QST.
  • If you're in an HST province, both UPS and Purolator Ground incur HST. Sorry!
  • Some provinces have a higher extra brokerage fee for Purolator Ground. e.g. extra $8 for BC and $7.50 for Alberta.
  • Summary: For lowest cleared final price, it's almost always Purolator Ground (if available!).
  • Shameless self plug: all of the above rules are captured in the final cost calculations on my website.



  
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Mar 05, 2012 00:56 |  #12

I've had the same problem as bfinta. I was charged 310$ instead of 187$. I just sent an email to customer service at B&H...waiting for comeback


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Mar 05, 2012 00:58 |  #13

PhotoPrice wrote in post #14025320 (external link)
extra $8 for BC and $7.50 for Alberta

That is the provincial Electronic Recycling Fee.
Which is another bogus government tax that has never
been used for anything to do with what they claim they
are collecting it for.

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Mar 05, 2012 01:25 |  #14

Thanks for your looking into this, its greatly appelreciated. BTW you run a great website and i use it regularly! Thanks

PhotoPrice wrote in post #14025320 (external link)
There's still a problem with the B&H tax & duty calculator for the 5D Mark III -- I've had a flurry of e-mails from people "complaining" that Ontario comes up at 0% tax. I too have sent an e-mail into various contacts at B&H and hopefully it will be resolved soon.

My $0.02 on the Purolator Ground vs. UPS question, as there are many different issues at play:

  • Generally the Purolator fee (shipping + brokerage + disbursement fee) is about half that of the UPS (shipping + bond) fee.
  • If you're in a non-HST province, Purolator Ground only incurs GST (and saves the PST/QST). UPS always incurs GST + PST/QST.
  • If you're in an HST province, both UPS and Purolator Ground incur HST. Sorry!
  • Some provinces have a higher extra brokerage fee for Purolator Ground. e.g. extra $8 for BC and $7.50 for Alberta.
  • Summary: For lowest cleared final price, it's almost always Purolator Ground (if available!).
  • Shameless self plug: all of the above rules are captured in the final cost calculations on my website.




  
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Mar 05, 2012 07:34 |  #15

BTW you run a great website and i use it regularly! Thanks

+ 100 , it's extremely useful , i appreciate the efforts :)


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