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Mar 05, 2012 20:23 |  #6076

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Editors are demanding megapixels?? Really? That's nonsense. Editors dont say "your camera better have X amount of megapixels or no deal!" who told you that? One of the biggest reasons why a bigger pro wouldn't use the 5D2 over say a 1Ds3 is durability and such. They really but their cameras through hell and shoot a ton. And a big part of the time the gear is rented. They have big ol rental house stickers all over the lenses, camera bodies, computers and such. There's a tech and number of assistants running the tethering if they're tethering and running lenses or camera bodies with specific lenses and handing them to the photographer. And some landscape photographers I've shot with use Large format and medium format Phase One backs. javierherreraphotograp​hy.com judge all you want, doesn't take food out of MY mouth. AND when did I ever judge your work?


Who told me that? More than one magazine editor back in 2008 - it was 20MP or no deal. Either native digital files, or high-quality scans. Also, every second gallery, when you start mentioning digital prints of landscape shots. Usually, it goes something along the lines of, 'OK, we want to blow this up to 100 inches wide to display on this wall. Can your file handle that?'

And don't try to lecture me on landscape photography unless you're also one yourself. Landscape photographers sometimes use MF digital and LF film, but only in benign conditions, and generally when they don't have to carry it far. There's a reason many of Nat Geo's landscapes are shot using full-frame digital (similar IQ to MF film), usually the 5D2 or 1Ds3 - a flimsy MF or LF body is a liability if you're trying to shoot in Antarctica, or if it's too big and heavy to reasonably carry to Everest's North Col, or into the Congolese jungle. MF film panoramic bodies were very different from the current, flimsy and cumbersome field camera setups you need in order to use MF digital backs (since no MF DSLR has lenses which are wide enough). X-Pans, 612 and 617 lenses and bodies were relatively compact and robust. Stitched DSLR shots give similar IQ in similarly robust bodies. Digital MF backs in field cameras have similar IQ, and a similar size and flimsiness, to large-format film field cameras. Which makes them very special-purpose items. If one were available in a robust body (say, a digital x-pan with a 24x72mm sensor) I'd probably own two of them already.

Obviously durability is a big plus for the 1Ds3. It's also a big plus for the D800.




  
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Mar 05, 2012 22:48 |  #6077

Wow, this thread is still producing posts! Long live the 5D MIII rumor thread!

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Mar 06, 2012 00:47 |  #6078

Shadowblade wrote in post #14031753 (external link)
Who told me that? More than one magazine editor back in 2008 - it was 20MP or no deal. Either native digital files, or high-quality scans. Also, every second gallery, when you start mentioning digital prints of landscape shots. Usually, it goes something along the lines of, 'OK, we want to blow this up to 100 inches wide to display on this wall. Can your file handle that?'

And don't try to lecture me on landscape photography unless you're also one yourself. Landscape photographers sometimes use MF digital and LF film, but only in benign conditions, and generally when they don't have to carry it far. There's a reason many of Nat Geo's landscapes are shot using full-frame digital (similar IQ to MF film), usually the 5D2 or 1Ds3 - a flimsy MF or LF body is a liability if you're trying to shoot in Antarctica, or if it's too big and heavy to reasonably carry to Everest's North Col, or into the Congolese jungle. MF film panoramic bodies were very different from the current, flimsy and cumbersome field camera setups you need in order to use MF digital backs (since no MF DSLR has lenses which are wide enough). X-Pans, 612 and 617 lenses and bodies were relatively compact and robust. Stitched DSLR shots give similar IQ in similarly robust bodies. Digital MF backs in field cameras have similar IQ, and a similar size and flimsiness, to large-format film field cameras. Which makes them very special-purpose items. If one were available in a robust body (say, a digital x-pan with a 24x72mm sensor) I'd probably own two of them already.

Obviously durability is a big plus for the 1Ds3. It's also a big plus for the D800.

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"but I use a 39 megapixel medium format camera which is excellent, and allows me to do very large prints, which some clients demand. "

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Another amazing fine art and landscape photographer that shoots on digital Medium format. He's sold over 200 million in landscape and fine art photography. Shot on Medium format....

Just sayin.....


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Mar 06, 2012 03:27 |  #6079

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http://www.tonyhowell.​co.uk/about.htm (external link)

one of the worlds greatest, and shot in many many harsh conditions including for National Geographic....
"but I use a 39 megapixel medium format camera which is excellent, and allows me to do very large prints, which some clients demand. "

http://www.lik.com/ (external link)

Another amazing fine art and landscape photographer that shoots on digital Medium format. He's sold over 200 million in landscape and fine art photography. Shot on Medium format....

Just sayin.....

Peter Lik only sometimes shoots MF digital (only recently, when he acquired an iQ180). But many of his shots come from the 5D2.

Look at Tree of the Universe - one of his highest-selling images - and tell me with a straight face that was shot with an iQ180.

Also, if you're brining in many millions, you can afford to kill off MF backs. Most other landscape photographers don't have that luxury.




  
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Mar 06, 2012 06:32 |  #6080
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Slated at March 22nd for UK release, though I think that is when the pre-orders get their bodies




  
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Mar 06, 2012 08:58 |  #6081

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Slated at March 22nd for UK release, though I think that is when the pre-orders get their bodies

I think that is when the crates of cameras are shipping to the dealers...who knows when they will be in photographer's hands. I have mine on pre-order....maybe I'll be first n Wiltshire? Who knows?


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Mar 08, 2012 20:13 |  #6082

Shadowblade wrote in post #14033749 (external link)
Peter Lik only sometimes shoots MF digital (only recently, when he acquired an iQ180). But many of his shots come from the 5D2.

Look at Tree of the Universe - one of his highest-selling images - and tell me with a straight face that was shot with an iQ180.

Also, if you're brining in many millions, you can afford to kill off MF backs. Most other landscape photographers don't have that luxury.

From his blog he has digital backs...

"Peter uses the back extensively, and why not? The Danish-made image sensor boasts a mighty 80 megapixels! Phase One also released 60-megapixel P65+ and 40-megapixel P45+ backs, and Peter has these in his arsenal as well. But it’s the monster 80MP that has the Master Photographer really fired up.

“It’s an amazing thing,” said Peter. “Eight megs resolution and 12.5.f-stop dynamic range, and the touch screen is bloody awesome — you can pan and zoom and check through your shots easily. Love it!”

The display has a viewing angle of 170 degrees, incredible color rendition, and, with the automatic adjustment of brightness and contrast, it’s visible in all kinds of light situations.

You also get a fast memory interface which means the camera can cope with continuous shooting.

The unit isn’t small: 53.9mm x 43.4 mm. And it certainly isn’t cheap, going for over $40,000, with some variance between retailers. But you could get lucky and find a deal or maybe buy a refurbished unit. (The IQ160 and IQ140 are considerably less expensive, though still not cheap.)

“This has been one of the best new pieces of equipment I’ve added in quite a while,” said Peter. “I actually shot Eternal Beauty with it and we blew it up to ten feet by six and a half feet across four panels as part of the LIK EPIC series, and the detail is unbelievable! The IQ180 has won me.”

Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:00 am"


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Mar 08, 2012 20:17 |  #6083

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From his blog he has digital backs...

"Peter uses the back extensively, and why not? The Danish-made image sensor boasts a mighty 80 megapixels! Phase One also released 60-megapixel P65+ and 40-megapixel P45+ backs, and Peter has these in his arsenal as well. But it’s the monster 80MP that has the Master Photographer really fired up.

“It’s an amazing thing,” said Peter. “Eight megs resolution and 12.5.f-stop dynamic range, and the touch screen is bloody awesome — you can pan and zoom and check through your shots easily. Love it!”

The display has a viewing angle of 170 degrees, incredible color rendition, and, with the automatic adjustment of brightness and contrast, it’s visible in all kinds of light situations.

You also get a fast memory interface which means the camera can cope with continuous shooting.

The unit isn’t small: 53.9mm x 43.4 mm. And it certainly isn’t cheap, going for over $40,000, with some variance between retailers. But you could get lucky and find a deal or maybe buy a refurbished unit. (The IQ160 and IQ140 are considerably less expensive, though still not cheap.)

“This has been one of the best new pieces of equipment I’ve added in quite a while,” said Peter. “I actually shot Eternal Beauty with it and we blew it up to ten feet by six and a half feet across four panels as part of the LIK EPIC series, and the detail is unbelievable! The IQ180 has won me.”

Posted on September 14, 2011 at 4:00 am"

That's only recently. He's been shooting with a 5D2 and Linhof 617 for years, until he switched the 617 for an iQ180.




  
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Mar 08, 2012 20:25 |  #6084

Here is a nice comparison of ISO performance on a pre-production model:

http://www.imaging-resource.com …mkiii/canon-5d-mkiiiA.HTM (external link)

Looking at the 7D vs 5D MkIII @ ISO1600 really has me thinking about upgrading my 7D. Wow...


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Mar 08, 2012 20:40 |  #6085

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Here is a nice comparison of ISO performance on a pre-production model:

http://www.imaging-resource.com …mkiii/canon-5d-mkiiiA.HTM (external link)

Looking at the 7D vs 5D MkIII @ ISO1600 really has me thinking about upgrading my 7D. Wow...

Is it just me or does it look like the 5DmkIII images are much sharper except for the reds. I would have thought that with a more aggressive AA filter they would have been softer. Or maybe it's just that the default sharpness setting is higher than in past cameras.


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Mar 08, 2012 20:47 |  #6086

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Is it just me or does it look like the 5DmkIII images are much sharper except for the reds. I would have thought that with a more aggressive AA filter they would have been softer. Or maybe it's just that the default sharpness setting is higher than in past cameras.

Of course it's going to be sharper. You're moving from crop to full-frame - that's two-and-a-half times the sensor area.




  
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Mar 08, 2012 20:49 |  #6087

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Of course it's going to be sharper. You're moving from crop to full-frame - that's two-and-a-half times the sensor area.

I'm not talking about the MkIII to 7D comparison, but the MkII and Nikons.


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Mar 09, 2012 00:26 |  #6088

Leffe67 wrote in post #14053132 (external link)
Here is a nice comparison of ISO performance on a pre-production model:

http://www.imaging-resource.com …mkiii/canon-5d-mkiiiA.HTM (external link)

Looking at the 7D vs 5D MkIII @ ISO1600 really has me thinking about upgrading my 7D. Wow...

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Mar 09, 2012 08:16 |  #6089

I find the auto ISO feature, with the ability to set maximum exposure times extremely appealing. Wish they would roll this out on other models via firmware.

Not sure how everyone else feels about this feature, but for me, it would be very valuable. I shoot lots of photos of my fast-moving children, in low light. I can't help but think that this would result in a lot more keepers when I'm shooting in Aperture Priority mode.


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Mar 09, 2012 08:32 |  #6090

Leffe67 wrote in post #14055381 (external link)
I find the auto ISO feature, with the ability to set maximum exposure times extremely appealing. Wish they would roll this out on other models via firmware.

Not sure how everyone else feels about this feature, but for me, it would be very valuable. I shoot lots of photos of my fast-moving children, in low light. I can't help but think that this would result in a lot more keepers when I'm shooting in Aperture Priority mode.

Has this been confirmed? If so thtbis awesome. I hope there is an auto iso mode in manual too. So you can adjust shutter sped and aperture and camera will auto adjust iso.


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