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Bokeh of 85L at 1.2 vs 70-200 IS II at 2.8

 
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Aug 16, 2011 14:33 as a reply to  @ post 12946231 |  #31

I already own the 100mm L macro, thats the only reason I mentioned it =)

From Jeffrey's great post it generally is seeming like I might be more happy with the IS II, but its made me really think about have exactly I plan to use the lens.

Sometimes I like to fool around with shots in my apartment and I doubt I will have enough space to shoot at 200mm inside here. Would probably be better with the IS II when I am outside though.

Guess it also depends on your goals... the two example photos I linked dont have the subjects entire body's depth super sharp - they both would probably have popped more on the 200. But I like those shots anyway, they are interesting beyond just the subject.

Might just have to get both haha




  
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Aug 16, 2011 17:33 as a reply to  @ mattmillus's post |  #32

Just purchased both, should have them friday and Ill try and post some comparison shots of similar frames =)




  
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Aug 16, 2011 19:20 |  #33

I'm in the same situation as you and right now for me, the 70-200 II wins for me. At that distance, I prefer a little more versatility.


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Mar 09, 2012 04:55 |  #34
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I've had a 70-200 IS II for about 3 months now and will never part with it. Ever.
My 85L II will come in in a few days (yay!) and I'll post a good 85/1.2 vs 200/2.8 shot. This is an interesting thread and I figured it would be a good experience to perform this test.

I agree to some of these posts because I understand the DOF and the perspective each lens has which (unfortunately) makes me want to keep both lenses and use each lens accordingly.

Back to the original question, I'd say if you can get both, that would be the best option. However, if asked which to get first, by all means- get a 70-200 II


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Mar 09, 2012 10:03 |  #35

mattmillus wrote in post #12947214 (external link)
Just purchased both, should have them friday and Ill try and post some comparison shots of similar frames =)

They are both such great, and yet such different, lenses that choosing one over the other as "the better one" might just come down to which one you own first, with the advantage going to the one you get second - at least that was my experience. I love both but since getting the 85L, it's been glued to my camera! This of course doesn't make your choice any easier seeing that you are lucky, or unlucky enough, to get both at the same time. At the end of the day, they both are fantastic!


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Mar 09, 2012 10:36 |  #36

Damn I thought this thread would have my answer of the 85 vs 70-200...I was debating whether to keep my Sigma 85 or sell it for the 70-200 2.8. :S

I'm a bokeh whore.


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Mar 09, 2012 11:02 |  #37

mattmillus wrote in post #12947214 (external link)
Just purchased both, should have them friday and Ill try and post some comparison shots of similar frames =)

Congratulation, lots to look forward too. Hope to see some shots in the sample section soon then :-)


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Mar 09, 2012 11:04 |  #38

Vixen89 wrote in post #14056197 (external link)
Damn I thought this thread would have my answer of the 85 vs 70-200...I was debating whether to keep my Sigma 85 or sell it for the 70-200 2.8. :S

I'm a bokeh whore.

If you're shooting the 70-200 at the short end, the bokeh will not be as smooth as the 85L but at the long end, it'll blow anything and everything out.

Between these 2, I'd pick the 70-200


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Mar 09, 2012 11:07 |  #39

Vixen89 wrote in post #14056197 (external link)
Damn I thought this thread would have my answer of the 85 vs 70-200...I was debating whether to keep my Sigma 85 or sell it for the 70-200 2.8. :S

I'm a bokeh whore.

Then save your $$$$ and get the 200 2L ;)




  
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Mar 09, 2012 11:12 |  #40

4x4rock wrote in post #14056349 (external link)
If you're shooting the 70-200 at the short end, the bokeh will not be as smooth as the 85L but at the long end, it'll blow anything and everything out.

Between these 2, I'd pick the 70-200

So do most people only shoot at the 200mm mostly during portrait sessions?

airfrogusmc wrote in post #14056365 (external link)
Then save your $$$$ and get the 200 2L ;)

bw!

haha I just had to look up the price..


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Mar 09, 2012 11:17 |  #41

The amount of background blur (for a very distant background) is simply a function of the size of the entrance pupil (FL / f-number) when the foreground framing is fixed, and doesn't depend on FL or crop factor. The two lenses have almost identical entrance pupil wide open:

85mm/1.2 = 70.8mm,
200mm/2.8 = 71.4mm.

so the amount of the background blur should be the same. Of course with 200mm you'll get a completely different (much more compressed) perspective than with 85mm (for the same framing).


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Mar 09, 2012 11:22 |  #42

85L bokeh I believe to be better - especially if you compare the 70-200 @ 85mm.

However, with the 70-200 you are very versatile, and 200mm allows for your background to be compressed a lot more than the 85mm which can be very important for portraits.


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Mar 09, 2012 11:23 |  #43

mattmillus wrote in post #12947214 (external link)
Just purchased both, should have them friday and Ill try and post some comparison shots of similar frames =)

lol

This is one way to solve your problem. I totally approve of this solution.


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Mar 09, 2012 11:40 |  #44

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This is one way to solve your problem. I totally approve of this solution.

This forum has broken so many bankaccounts :-)


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Mar 09, 2012 11:54 |  #45

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This forum has broken so many bankaccounts :-)

sure as hell killed mines, and I was debt free 2 years ago til I found POTN. LOL


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