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50mm 1.4 vs. 1.2

 
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Mar 08, 2012 19:51 |  #1

I own the 1.4 lens and have never used the 1.2 lens. There's a hefty price tag on the latter as everyone knows.

Is it safe to assume that you are getting quite a bang for you buck in IQ, besides getting the extra stop? Been chewing on adding it to my 'arsenal' and probably ought to look in to renting it first.

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Mar 08, 2012 19:54 |  #2

Owned a 50 1.2 for about a few weeks and sold it 3 days ago.

50 1.2
-Better bokeh
-Slightly better microcontrast and colors SOOC
-Better build
-Better AF

Bottomline for me was value and 50 1.2 was just not worth the $1400 price tag. 50 1.4 offered 90% of what the 50 1.2 can do imho.




  
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Mar 08, 2012 19:59 |  #3

I'm wondering the same thing. I'm seriously thinking about a 5d mark iii. with the supposed ISO capabilities of it and a 1.2 lens, you should be able to take a picture in almost darkness. For the cost you should be able to anyway.


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Mar 08, 2012 20:00 |  #4

I own it. I won't sell it until there's a better one.

When you say IQ, it depends upon whats important to you. For me, in a specialty lens like that, I want great bokeh and excellent low light AF performance.

If you don't care about AF, at the L price level, have a look at the MF 50 primes.


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Mar 08, 2012 20:04 |  #5

I bought the Sigma 50 f/1.4 as a nice compromise between the build and IQ of those two lens mentioned above. The 50 f/1.2 at $900 would be about as much as I could see paying even if it's an awesome lens.

Of course not everyone has my budget, or my wife stareing them down when I mention how much my hobby is costing us this time.;)


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Mar 08, 2012 20:39 |  #6

eye2i wrote in post #14052978 (external link)
Owned a 50 1.2 for about a few weeks and sold it 3 days ago.

50 1.2
-Better bokeh
-Slightly better microcontrast and colors SOOC
-Better build
-Better AF

Bottomline for me was value and 50 1.2 was just not worth the $1400 price tag. 50 1.4 offered 90% of what the 50 1.2 can do imho.

what did you end up with? Canon or sigma 1.4?


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Mar 08, 2012 20:50 |  #7

I had the 50L, sold it awhile ago to a friend, missed it, and will now be buying it back from him in a few days. I miss the weather sealing and the exquisite "1.2 look" (same with the 85L).

I found the AF to be a little quirky on the L. Reliability-wise, I prefer the 35L. The biggest issue IMO is still the focus shift, which doesn't happen on the 1.4. If you're happy with your 1.4 and don't have a lot of money to experiment with, you should probably just hang onto it. The 1.4 is a fine performer.

By the way, it's only a half-stop faster, not a full stop!

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Mar 08, 2012 21:28 as a reply to  @ Collin85's post |  #8

I love my 50L. I don't have any of the focusing issues that the lens is infamous for. My 50 1.4 performed admirably, but there's something about the L that I feel is just magic. I love the images it produces. Maybe I got lucky with my copy or I have very low expectations, lol, but I just LOVE it.

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Mar 08, 2012 23:24 |  #9

CatchingUp wrote in post #14052961 (external link)
I own the 1.4 lens and have never used the 1.2 lens. There's a hefty price tag on the latter as everyone knows.

Is it safe to assume that you are getting quite a bang for you buck in IQ, besides getting the extra stop? Been chewing on adding it to my 'arsenal' and probably ought to look in to renting it first.

Thoughts?

The 1.4 is known the be sharper, and the 1.2 does have issues. But if you are in love with Bokeh and could care less about pixel peeping the 50L does offer good image quality. The build quality and smoother FTM focus ring sold me on the lens. I call in my baby 85L because if i dont care to carry the 85L with me, i'll be damn sure to carry my 50L.

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I own it. I won't sell it until there's a better one.

When you say IQ, it depends upon whats important to you. For me, in a specialty lens like that, I want great bokeh and excellent low light AF performance.

If you don't care about AF, at the L price level, have a look at the MF 50 primes.

Same reasons for owning the 50L. When there is a better one, I will sell mine off. I bought mine for 1250 but prices sure have increased in the last year or so. I was eyeing a 100L but the prices have gone up by $300. No thank you. I'll have to wait.


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Mar 09, 2012 00:52 |  #10

I don't know if I have a "bad" copy, or if there even is such a thing, but I never use the 50 1.4 below 2.8. I just don't like the results. The 50 1.2L, on the other hand, is very usable at any aperture and I really love it. I was fortunate enough to evaluate it for two weeks and it's high on my list of future purchases.

One way to look at it, the 50 1.2L is kind of like a lesser version of 85 1.2LII. The 85 is sharper, but the 50 is very decent, the 85 has better color, but the 50 is still great, and the 85 is more dreamy at 1.2, but the 50 is dreamy as well. And unlike the 85 the 50 focuses instantly. But if I wanted the magical look of the 85, but wanted to save some money I would certainly pick up the 50 1.2, and eventually own both!

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Regarding focus shift, if you start reading about it, I shot two weddings with the 501.2L, both ceremonies in fact, and parts of the reception, and didn't notice any problems. I'm sure some versions have the problem, but other copies are just fine.


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Mar 09, 2012 01:31 |  #11

I love my 50L, it is the best 50mm that I have ever owned. I tried 3 copies of the sigma, none of them works out of the box, all have focusing issues and very inconsistent. Then I moved on to the Canon 50mm f/1.4, it performs well with good IQ. But I finally pulled my trigger on the 50L, as I would like to have a more solid build 50 than the f/1.4. IMO, the 50L is sharp wide open, very good contrast, excellent build quality and the amazing f/1.2 aperture that creates creamy bokeh~!

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Mar 09, 2012 06:14 |  #12

I own, have used, and consider both the 50 1.2L and the 50 1.4 great lenses. From my real world experience, the L has better bokeh, color/contrast at all apertures, and better build quality. The auto focus accuracy/consistency of the L is much better than the non-L wider than f2.8 (as good as my other L primes), and they are about the same smaller than f2.8. The non-L focuses insignificantly faster in good light. The L’s low light auto focusing ability is extraordinary. Better than any of my other fast L primes. It will literally snap into focus in a dark room where other lenses just hunt and fail. It’s downright difficult to make the L flare. Both lenses are sharp. The L is slightly but noticeably sharper wider than f2, somewhere between f2 and f2.8 they become the same, and I can’t see a difference smaller than f2.8.

If you frequently shoot wider than f2 or in low light situations, then the L is well worth the upgrade. If most of your shots are smaller than f2.8, it isn’t. If you shoot mostly in between or at a wide range of apertures, then let your wallet be your guide.

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Mar 09, 2012 06:19 |  #13

I did contact a local photographer that I know last night. She owns the 50L and says she loves it, but has sent it in to Canon several times due to focusing issues. Which seems to echo what others have said. I wonder why there would be those type 'issues' on such a pricey lens?

I have also pondered the 85L as well....and I asked on here once about using that for indoor sports, like basketball and heard it was slow on focusing as well. Wonder what it is about those lenses?


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Mar 09, 2012 10:17 |  #14

CatchingUp wrote in post #14055019 (external link)
I have also pondered the 85L as well....and I asked on here once about using that for indoor sports, like basketball and heard it was slow on focusing as well. Wonder what it is about those lenses?

They have massive amount of glass to move :) While the 85L is a much easier decision to make than the 50L, at the end of the day with the non-L you'll be left knowing that there is something better out there with a red ring on it.


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Mar 09, 2012 10:28 |  #15

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They have massive amount of glass to move :) While the 85L is a much easier decision to make than the 50L, at the end of the day with the non-L you'll be left knowing that there is something better out there with a red ring on it.

I've got a 300 2.8 with a red ring around it. Lots of glass in it too. And it focuses rather quickly for me when shooting sports.


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