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Mar 05, 2012 13:53 |  #16

No....PocketWizards are still better IMO. The 600RX-ET won't control my alien bee strobes. I am also pretty sure that I can't wirelessly control the manual power output of a 580EX from the camera with the new flash. Or fire a 580EX that can't "see" the 600RX-ET's IR signal. Or....or...or.......


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Mar 05, 2012 14:57 |  #17

To rephrase my statement. I am sure this is a good flash, and will work very well for some people. For me, wireless ettl isnt a big deal, and since i use a few YN560's I would still have to do what I am doing now. I am happy with my wireless setup.


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Mar 05, 2012 15:43 |  #18

In my case, I have Einsteins already, but only YN-560s for speedlights. When I am in a confined space or constantly moving, I need the mobility of speedlights. I shoot in manual, but would like the option to go into Av and ETTL when necessary. I have a 5D and just shot my first wedding with it yesterday. While it was a small wedding and not too challenging, I did find the autofocus lacking in some low light with the outer autofocus points where my 40D worked better. So I can see myself adding a 5D III to my arsenal in the future to take advantage of the 600EXs.

And for those of you that shoot with 5D IIs, I can see how a 1/100s x-sync would be limiting. And perhaps you're already invested in radio triggers and have an assortment of speedlights. But I agree with timnosenzo in that simplicity, speed and convenience in an event scenario trumps the power of the Einsteins and the few dollars that you'll save going with 3rd party triggers.




  
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Mar 05, 2012 19:23 |  #19

The only reason I am thinking about upgrading all my flashes to the 600RX-ET units is so I can finally have reliable remote speedlites. Using my three 580EXII units with my three Pocket Wizard Flex TT5 units has always been a hit-or-miss proposition for me. I can't have that during weddings. I imagine this is why Canon included radio transmission with the 600RX-ET flash; there are literally thousands of posts on POTN and dpreview about the inconsistency of the TT5 and the 580EX. True, I would need to upgrade all three of my 580EXII speedlites but I imagine if I sold them all, along with all my PW stuff, the cost wouldn't be as bad as it could be. As for the new 5D3, that may have to wait 9 months until I can get a nice used one (or two).


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Mar 06, 2012 00:40 |  #20

I'm sure you guys are already aware, but in case you missed it, Syl Arena has confirmed that HSS works perfectly well on the 5DII with the 600EX's. I'm not sure why Canon stated the contrary.

I really like how the 600EX notifies when all your slaves have recycled, I think that's an amazing feature. In Chuck Westfall's video he shows off a few different ways you can interact with the master and slaves via the camera body, I thought it was impressive. Overall, if you're big into OCF then Canon's system really is an amazing option. Unfortunately, if your into OCF you're already heavily invested in speedlites and triggers :(

As for the 5DIII, I think it's really solid, but I'm underwhelmed. I think for the price Canon should have included professional weather sealing and a professional metering system.


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Mar 06, 2012 12:18 |  #21

snaphappyphotography wrote in post #14033301 (external link)
As for the 5DIII, I think it's really solid, but I'm underwhelmed. I think for the price Canon should have included professional weather sealing and a professional metering system.

What's wrong with the metering system? Heck, the metering system in my 20D still works wonderfully. I haven't really noticed the change between that, the 40D and 5DII, but also haven't had a reason to want anything different.


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Mar 06, 2012 14:53 |  #22

Nothing is wrong with it, it's just the idea that the D800 inherited more pro features from the D4 than the 5DIII inherited from the 1DX. In my hands on demo of the 1DX the Canon rep really wowed me with the 1DX's metering and focus system and I was so hoping the 5DIII would inherit the same system, similar to how the D800 inherited its pro system from the D4.

But this is a thread about speedlites and I think in that area Canon now rules the market! Looking forward to listening to Martin Bailey's podcast with Syl Arena later today!


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Mar 07, 2012 15:48 |  #23

I can't get past the $629 price point for this flash !!!It's just way to overpriced IMO.


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Mar 07, 2012 21:05 |  #24

The msrp on the 5D grip was around $600 but can be preordered for $350. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.


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Mar 09, 2012 00:39 |  #25

I'm taking the leap and pre-ordered the 5DIII. I'm pretty excited to get my hands on it!


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Mar 09, 2012 00:40 |  #26

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Mar 09, 2012 00:51 |  #27

Numenorean wrote in post #14028888 (external link)
No....PocketWizards are still better IMO. The 600RX-ET won't control my alien bee strobes. I am also pretty sure that I can't wirelessly control the manual power output of a 580EX from the camera with the new flash. Or fire a 580EX that can't "see" the 600RX-ET's IR signal. Or....or...or.......


Perhaps I mis-read but from what I can understand, the 600EX doesn't have IR, only RF wireless, which means it won't work with any previous model Speedlites as slaves.

I would imagine also that you're correct about the RF output of the 600EX, it probably won't work with anything other than other 600EX models or anything that Canon releases that uses RF wireless.

Pocket Wizards are more universal, so in that respect if you already own them, yes you're better off.




  
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Mar 09, 2012 00:57 |  #28

ChadAndreo wrote in post #14046735 (external link)
The msrp on the 5D grip was around $600 but can be preordered for $350. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.


WTF is with Canon's pricing suddenly going straight thru the roof???

$7000 for the 1DX, $3500 for the 5D3 and $600 for the grip, $629 for a Speedlite, $2300 for the 24-70 MkII ?

It almost seems that Canon is trying to price itself out of the semi-pro (those who pay for their own gear) market with these steep price increases.




  
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Mar 09, 2012 06:00 |  #29

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Perhaps I mis-read but from what I can understand, the 600EX doesn't have IR, only RF wireless, which means it won't work with any previous model Speedlites as slaves.

I understood that it has both IR and RF - but can't do both at the same time... You can use them old-way or new-way...


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Mar 09, 2012 12:07 |  #30

DennisW1 wrote in post #14054426 (external link)
WTF is with Canon's pricing suddenly going straight thru the roof???

$7000 for the 1DX, $3500 for the 5D3 and $600 for the grip, $629 for a Speedlite, $2300 for the 24-70 MkII ?

It almost seems that Canon is trying to price itself out of the semi-pro (those who pay for their own gear) market with these steep price increases.

yeah, it's obscene really


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