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Mar 09, 2012 18:57 |  #31

bzollinger wrote in post #14058880 (external link)
I'm with ya! This looks good to me. And you can do it yourself, keep the raw files and finally there will be no switching from +-1EV to +-2EV just to get a 5 shot set!!!!!!!

I know. I love the fact that I can do 7 shot AEB now, and +-3 EV. now I can only do +- 1.5 with 3 shots. a big downer. and 3 shots hand held with 3.8 FPS is NOT easy. handheld HDR with 6fps will be so much better.


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Mar 09, 2012 19:00 |  #32

Häakon wrote in post #14058813 (external link)
No, HDR is about the relationship between bright and dark objects in a scene... not about pulling down overexposed areas and boosting dark ones so the end result looks like a weird mismatch of exposure values.

I disagree.

The end step of a full HDR process is ALMOST always, a tone-mapped LDR output image from a series of exposures giving an interim HDR file.

Simply because very few output devices (monitors or prints) can output true HDR data correctly.

And I think the ability to save 7 or 9 raw images of varying exposures is long overdue and very cool on the 5D.


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Mar 09, 2012 19:11 |  #33

Old Baldy wrote in post #14058937 (external link)
I disagree.

The end step of a full HDR process is ALMOST always, a tone-mapped LDR output image from a series of exposures giving an interim HDR file.

Simply because very few output devices (monitors or prints) can output true HDR data correctly.

And I think the ability to save 7 or 9 raw images of varying exposures is long overdue and very cool on the 5D.

The problem is that many people (and we have to wait and see how Canon has approached this) do regionalized correcting, severely altering the relationship between exposure values across the entire frame. Just look at the example the chap posted just a few replies back. I think that's hideous, but to each their own. Heck, there's even a setting called "embossed" or something as one of the new preset choices. On a pro-level camera, I don't know how that is even acceptable. Regardless, one doesn't have to use it. I just forsee an avalanche of those kinds of images popping up once the camera comes out since it's possible now to just press a button and do it in-camera, that's all.




  
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Mar 09, 2012 19:17 |  #34
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fitshaced wrote in post #14031353 (external link)
As the 5D MK III is coming with this new HDR mode, I'm guessing this is simply a software thing. Is it likely for this to trickle down to existing cameras such as the 7D and 5D MK II with firmware updates?

Hope not...don't need it. I'd rather have full control of HDR in post processing. Gimmick.........




  
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Mar 09, 2012 19:22 |  #35
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Häakon wrote in post #14058997 (external link)
The problem is that many people (and we have to wait and see how Canon has approached this) do regionalized correcting, severely altering the relationship between exposure values across the entire frame. Just look at the example the chap posted just a few replies back. I think that's hideous, but to each their own. Heck, there's even a setting called "embossed" or something as one of the new preset choices. On a pro-level camera, I don't know how that is even acceptable. Regardless, one doesn't have to use it. I just forsee an avalanche of those kinds of images popping up once the camera comes out since it's possible now to just press a button and do it in-camera, that's all.

Yep, p&s have this type of in-camera garbage. We live in the press the button and get the results world.




  
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Mar 09, 2012 19:24 |  #36

Häakon wrote in post #14058997 (external link)
The problem is that many people (and we have to wait and see how Canon has approached this) do regionalized correcting, severely altering the relationship between exposure values across the entire frame. Just look at the example the chap posted just a few replies back. I think that's hideous, but to each their own. Heck, there's even a setting called "embossed" or something as one of the new preset choices. On a pro-level camera, I don't know how that is even acceptable. Regardless, one doesn't have to use it. I just forsee an avalanche of those kinds of images popping up once the camera comes out since it's possible now to just press a button and do it in-camera, that's all.

And if that happens then there will probably be a new forum created for those types of photos. Then all you have to do is not visit them. :)


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Mar 09, 2012 19:35 as a reply to  @ bzollinger's post |  #37

The new 5DIII will have the ability to shoot 7 at +/- 5EV which is a huge spread. The 1D series such as my 1DsII can shoot 7 at +/-3 which is a total spread of 18 stops.

There are actually three different ways multiple exposures can be shot with the 5DIII, two of which are merged in camera. The third method is exposure compensation and AEB which is the one most of us are probably the most interested in.

Here are the three ways of shooting multiple exposures using this camera:

HDR Mode

The EOS 5D Mark III camera features a built-in HDR mode, merging three images at various exposure levels into a single image, in-camera, for stunning photographs of landscapes and architecture with enhanced tonal gradation beyond the range of the naked eye. The exposure levels in the camera’s HDR mode can be set to cover a range of up to ±3 stops, in a choice of five settings: Natural, Art Standard, Art Vivid, Art Bold and Art Embossed providing unique visual effects.

Multiple Exposure Mode

The EOS 5D Mark III is the second EOS Digital SLR after the EOS-1D X to feature Multiple Exposure capabilities with the ability to combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for post-processing in a computer. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark.

Exposure compensation

Exposure compensation is possible with the EOS 5D Mark III from +/-5EV in 1/3 or 1/2 stop increments. This can be combined with auto exposure bracketing (AEB) in two, three, five or seven-shot sequences.


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Mar 09, 2012 19:39 |  #38

Yes! Seven shot sequences!! No more deleting all extra the 0EV frames and using card/computer space to store them!


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Mar 09, 2012 19:43 |  #39

Häakon wrote in post #14058997 (external link)
The problem is that many people (and we have to wait and see how Canon has approached this) do regionalized correcting, severely altering the relationship between exposure values across the entire frame. Just look at the example the chap posted just a few replies back. I think that's hideous, but to each their own. Heck, there's even a setting called "embossed" or something as one of the new preset choices. On a pro-level camera, I don't know how that is even acceptable. Regardless, one doesn't have to use it. I just forsee an avalanche of those kinds of images popping up once the camera comes out since it's possible now to just press a button and do it in-camera, that's all.

that's the beauty of choice. I love processed shots as well as more realistic shots.

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Mar 09, 2012 19:45 |  #40

Hogloff wrote in post #14059049 (external link)
Yep, p&s have this type of in-camera garbage. We live in the press the button and get the results world.

yes. and isn't that a good thing? it makes "real" HDR more desirable no?


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Mar 09, 2012 20:06 |  #41

ilumo wrote in post #14059128 (external link)
yes. and isn't that a good thing? it makes "real" HDR more desirable no?

Yes, that's why it would be nice to have "real" HDR in the camera!

I'm not trying to be difficult with you, I just don't even know what style of picture that is you just linked... the sky is almost black and the clouds are still completely blown out.




  
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Mar 09, 2012 20:42 |  #42

Häakon wrote in post #14059205 (external link)
Yes, that's why it would be nice to have "real" HDR in the camera!

I'm not trying to be difficult with you, I just don't even know what style of picture that is you just linked... the sky is almost black and the clouds are still completely blown out.

it's stylized. again. it's personal preference. I really don't mind if the HDRs look like the above. does this look more "real" to you?

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Mar 09, 2012 20:47 |  #43

Video sample of the HDR feature explained.... http://www.imaging-resource.com …mkiii/canon-5d-mkiiiA.HTM (external link)


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Mar 09, 2012 21:18 |  #44

HDR is an attractive feature for me and look forward to seeing it in action. But, I only like black and white HDR's as they don't over do it and give you exactly what you want, higher dynamic range. Colour HDR often ruins the scene.


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Mar 09, 2012 21:25 |  #45
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ilumo wrote in post #14059128 (external link)
yes. and isn't that a good thing? it makes "real" HDR more desirable no?

Don't see anything good in producing generic out of the camera photos.




  
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