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Mar 11, 2012 04:26 |  #16

Hmm...ok interesting replies. I guess I can borrow a flash off a friend and use it for a couple of days, see if I like using it. I understand there is a steep learning curve when first starting out with one, so we'll see how it goes.

I just see lots of pictures in the e.g. 35mm f1.4, 24mm f1.4, 50 f1.2 thread which to me seems like they were taken at home/events such as dinners without a flash. Or am I missiing something and those pics are all taken with flashes?


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Mar 11, 2012 08:19 |  #17

Ebwly wrote in post #14064741 (external link)
I ask because I was looking at weather I should get a flash. Please note money is not a factor at this stage.

I personally prefer shooting with available light only and dislike flash, despite the fact that there are great images produced by those who've mastered their flash techniques; so I definitely advice getting the fastest prime you can. I know you didn't ask for lens advice, but judging from your listed collection and as you state money is not a factor, I'd say go for the 50L and the 85L. Even the best flash guns are quite cheap relative the fastest primes, so you could always throw one in just to try it out and determine whether you even like using it, despite the good results you might get with it.


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Mar 11, 2012 08:40 |  #18

Ebwly wrote in post #14065743 (external link)
Hmm...ok interesting replies. I guess I can borrow a flash off a friend and use it for a couple of days, see if I like using it. I understand there is a steep learning curve when first starting out with one, so we'll see how it goes.

I just see lots of pictures in the e.g. 35mm f1.4, 24mm f1.4, 50 f1.2 thread which to me seems like they were taken at home/events such as dinners without a flash. Or am I missiing something and those pics are all taken with flashes?

It's possible to shoot low light without flash by using a large aperture, but it can be limiting. You are stuck with shallow DOF whether you want it or not, and you are stuck with the room lighting. Not all 'natural' or 'available' light is flattering.

Knowing how to use flash well is an incredibly important tool for a photographer. And flash can be used in many ways, including blended with ambient light. You can use flash to avoid blowing out windows, to fill shadows, to correct ugly color casts.....its a powerful tool.

Check these out for a couple quick examples. The first shot is available light and a fast aperture. The light is hideous, and without a flash there isn't a damn thing I can do about it.

In the second shot, the light on the subject is entirely from flash. See how I preserved the window in the background instead of having a horrible blown out patch of white? And f/4 is much better for DOF than f/1.2 would be.


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Mar 11, 2012 08:55 |  #19

JeffreyG wrote in post #14066245 (external link)
It's possible to shoot low light without flash by using a large aperture, but it can be limiting. You are stuck with shallow DOF whether you want it or not, and you are stuck with the room lighting. Not all 'natural' or 'available' light is flattering.
Knowing how to use flash well is an incredibly important tool for a photographer. And flash can be used in many ways, including blended with ambient light. You can use flash to avoid blowing out windows, to fill shadows, to correct ugly color casts.....its a powerful tool.

I agree with this ^^




  
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Mar 11, 2012 10:41 as a reply to  @ post 14065702 |  #20

If flash is not permitted fast prime is only solution.
But if flash allowed, I'll use it even with large aperture, if necessary.
With lenses OP has - flash is due to long time ago.

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Mar 11, 2012 13:23 |  #21

you need a flash


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Mar 11, 2012 13:38 |  #22

Strongly recommend getting a flash; if you're shooting for pictures of your kids, that usually means indoors at home/family's homes, where there won't be a restriction on using it or not. And flash will really make it easier to get the shots you're looking for when they're scooting all over the place.

It can also really help your outdoor shots by using it for fill flash to help keep facial shadows from being as harsh, etc.


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