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50L or 85L?

 
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Mar 03, 2012 19:08 |  #16

+1 on the 85L here ;)


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Mar 03, 2012 19:22 |  #17

85L is sharper wide open


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Mar 03, 2012 19:33 |  #18

Which one would best hold its value?


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Mar 03, 2012 19:36 as a reply to  @ Rigby470's post |  #19

50 1.2L for me. I have both and I'd have to say the 85 1.2 is quite limited for use. Its more of a specialty lens. A 50 mm on a full frame camera can do a lot things.




  
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Mar 03, 2012 19:40 |  #20

MatthewK wrote in post #14016885 (external link)
You know, I haven't noticed too much fringing with my 50L. Very well controlled in this regard.

As an added bonus, you'll be delighted to know that the thing will not flare either. And it's AF has an uncanny ability to lock on in near pitch black conditions. The lens is fracken awesome in every way.

I can attest to this one as well. Absolutely wonderful even at F/1.2.




  
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Mar 03, 2012 20:59 |  #21

I've been asking myself this ALL the time. I only have the 50 1.8, but 50mm is 50mm. I'd consider a 50L down the road, but I just prefer 85mm to 50mm. It's all about preference. Some say 85mm is limiting but I find it to be great! For awhile, my kit was a 5Dc, 17-40, and 85L. Never had any issues with it :)

Basically, you need to know the focal length you like. At the end of the day, that is going to matter much more than whether or not one is a bit sharper or has nicer bokeh.


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Mar 04, 2012 01:04 as a reply to  @ mattjns93's post |  #22

Put my vote in for the 85L...It is an outstanding lens.


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Mar 04, 2012 01:56 |  #23

85L is better overall, most expensive too.
I like the fact there's a Canon 50 1.4 and 1.4 vs 1.2 aren't as noticeable as 1.8 vs 1.2 for 85.

However, focal length comes first before anything. It's like what is the point of getting something very good that you won't use much? You would be better off by having your money invest in something that you will use the most often.

Both lens hold value the same. Since values are in percentage, numerically you will probably lose more money in a more expensive lens. 10% of 1.8k > 10% 1.5k


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Mar 04, 2012 08:56 |  #24

Another vote for the 85L. It's much sharper then the 50L. 50mm is a better focal length for me though. I wish Canon could pack all the qualities of the 85 into the 50. That would be my dream lens.


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Mar 04, 2012 12:06 |  #25

HeleneD wrote in post #14019675 (external link)
I wish Canon could pack all the qualities of the 85 into the 50. That would be my dream lens.

I have both lenses, and find them comparable; I use my 85L for studio portraits only, and 50L for walk-around environmental portraits...


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Mar 04, 2012 12:11 |  #26

I've had both - sold the 50L now.

85L is a sharper lens overall, better bokeh but slower AF.
50L is more versatile and I'd use it more often but softer wide open.

Each has it's pros and cons, really depends what focal length you need.




  
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Mar 04, 2012 15:28 |  #27

Have both, but rarely shoot with 85L since I got he 135L. I used the 85L a lot on APS-C, much less so on FF.

The 50L is mounted on the 5D II by default. It is the best 50 mm lens out there for Canon IMO.

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Mar 04, 2012 15:52 |  #28

eye2i wrote in post #14017027 (external link)
50 1.2L for me. I have both and I'd have to say the 85 1.2 is quite limited for use. Its more of a specialty lens. A 50 mm on a full frame camera can do a lot things.

Very well said. I own both of them and I have to admit I use the 50L far more often. In terms of pixel peeping sharpness, then yes, the 85L is a fantastic lens. However, the unfortunate reality is that lenses primarily get graded on their sharpness first in any sort of benchmarked comparison, and the 50L often gets very mixed reviews as a result. However if you rent this lens and play around with it for a few days you'll realize that this lens has many inherent qualities that cannot be mimicked by other lenses. Distinctly, it has a very dreamy and painterly way of rendering images -- particularly the OOF highlights render not only smoothly but also gives the image a lot of depth and feeling. It's definitely hard to describe, but it will become evident as you use the lens more. I personally believe this dreamy look would not be possible had Canon designed this lens with the focus of achieving tack sharpness at f/1.2.

With that being said, in comparison with the 85L, the 50L focuses much faster, is far lighter, can focus much closer (MFD of 0.45m), is less prone to flare and CA, and is just an all-round more versatile lens to shoot with. The 85L still has its place, namely in the portrait world, but its use is very specialized and therefore does not perform well as a general purpose lens. However, shot for shot comparison will reveal greater sharpness from the 85L -- it's just that those sharply resolved details might end up looking a little purple due to the CA. :)


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Mar 11, 2012 10:12 |  #29

Rigby470 wrote in post #14016388 (external link)
Which has the best image quality and sharpness?

This is one of those lens battles that has proved impossible to settle especially because both are fantastic lenses and image quality and sharpness at this level is just so good that for every great image you point to from either lens, someone else inevitably points to an even greater image from the other. This is not made any easier when you are comparing them after shooting the great 70-200 f2.8 L IS II on a 5D Mark II as you do. I think the best way to choose either one of these two beasts (or, more appropriately, both) is to step back and remember that the 50L is a normal lens (and the 85L a portrait lens). Whichever you choose, the other will have 'better image quality and sharpness', until you own both :)


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Mar 11, 2012 10:24 |  #30

Rigby470 wrote in post #14016388 (external link)
Which has the best image quality and sharpness?

If rumours are correct then sell your 24-70 and get the new Mk2. If what people say about the 70-200 mk2 making their primes redundant, then maybe these two Mk2 zoom lens are all you need.......... :)


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