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Question about the Avenger 4050CS

 
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Jan 26, 2012 16:27 |  #1

I want to get one of these stands. I've read here and people don't really consider it to be a location stand. I know it's not ideal, but I'd really like to use it as a location stand. I can see it's rather heavy, but that doesn't bother me. My locations are never remote, and I bring a foldable wagon and hand truck.

How portable is it? Does it fold down the size of a normal heavy duty stand? Any problems fitting in a medium sized trunk? Any tips or advice would be appreciated. I can't seem to find a pic of it broken down.




  
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Jan 26, 2012 16:38 |  #2

Man, this is big stand for location work. What you hanging up there? Max I use for outdoors would be Avenger A4039CS.


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Jan 26, 2012 16:42 |  #3

B&H states closed length at 64". Would that fit in your trunk?


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Jan 26, 2012 16:44 |  #4

I can't access Rob's gear list, but he uses a big Avenger stand with leveling leg for location work. Swears by the leveling leg, but I think his did not come with the boom, and might have a smaller closed length.


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Jan 26, 2012 16:57 |  #5

Dave Jr wrote in post #13774129 (external link)
I can't access Rob's gear list, but he uses a big Avenger stand with leveling leg for location work. Swears by the leveling leg, but I think his did not come with the boom, and might have a smaller closed length.

does this help, got it from some thread ;)

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=13348694&pos​tcount=560


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Jan 26, 2012 17:09 |  #6

bobbyz wrote in post #13774092 (external link)
Man, this is big stand for location work. What you hanging up there? Max I use for outdoors would be Avenger A4039CS.

+1 I use the Avenger 4039 too, for indoor & outdoor work. Strong, sturdy stand. Plus it's Shorter & Lighter than the Avenger 4050, Highly recommend it!


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Jan 26, 2012 17:26 |  #7

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does this help, got it from some thread ;)

https://photography-on-the.net …?p=13348694&pos​tcount=560

That's the one, helps a lot :D. A foot shorter on the closed length and $100 less. Then he uses the D600 with it.


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Jan 26, 2012 17:38 |  #8

bobbyz wrote in post #13774092 (external link)
Man, this is big stand for location work. What you hanging up there? Max I use for outdoors would be Avenger A4039CS.

Nothing major. WL x3200 with a 60" octa at the most.....but I never want there to be a doubt, and I don't want to have to buy again in the future if my needs go up. The difference in price isn't that much so I'd rather over buy now instead of pay more later.

Mostly, it will be a beauty dish. I don't want to worry about sand bagging.

I can fit an 11' roll of paper in my Accord coupe, 64" is a piece of cake.




  
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Jan 26, 2012 20:53 |  #9

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I can fit an 11' roll of paper in my Accord coupe, 64" is a piece of cake.

Ah, ok, I thought you wanted it to fit in a medium sized trunk.


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Jan 26, 2012 21:42 |  #10

I own the A4050 and the A4039, and am not a small/weak guy (I'm 30 y/o and 230lbs)...and I think the A4050 is just too large of a stand for regular location work. If you had a specific/crazy need, then I can see *maybe* pulling it out...but even then, I'd like go for a hi hi instead.

I do the vast majority of my work on location (check out my work here: www.eyeballimaging.com (external link)) and I use the A4039 as my stand for the key light, and lowel grandstands for the rim/background lights (as they usually only have a 7" reflector), and they all work wonderfully.

I promise that keeping one or two sandbags in your car (which will rarely be needed) is much easier than lugging the *giant* stand out everytime. The A4039 usually works without a sandbag with most of my modifiers unless it's extra windy....and when it's extra windy, even an A4050 could be blown over.

Simply put: The A4050 was the first boom stand that I bought, thinking "buy once buy right" and it's one of the rare occasions that I should've gotten the cheaper/smaller option. I have yet to move into a studio (again, vast majority of my work is on-location) but the A4050 has been sitting relatively unused waiting for it's time in a studio. I use my A4039's on every location shoot that I do.


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Jan 26, 2012 22:03 |  #11

Dave Jr wrote in post #13775305 (external link)
Ah, ok, I thought you wanted it to fit in a medium sized trunk.

Sorry, you're right. Ideally I'd like to be able to not have to put the seat down, but I can if needed.




  
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Jan 26, 2012 22:07 |  #12

Cathpah wrote in post #13775506 (external link)
I own the A4050 and the A4039, and am not a small/weak guy (I'm 30 y/o and 230lbs)...and I think the A4050 is just too large of a stand for regular location work. If you had a specific/crazy need, then I can see *maybe* pulling it out...but even then, I'd like go for a hi hi instead.

I do the vast majority of my work on location (check out my work here: www.eyeballimaging.com (external link)) and I use the A4039 as my stand for the key light, and lowel grandstands for the rim/background lights (as they usually only have a 7" reflector), and they all work wonderfully.

I promise that keeping one or two sandbags in your car (which will rarely be needed) is much easier than lugging the *giant* stand out everytime. The A4039 usually works without a sandbag with most of my modifiers unless it's extra windy....and when it's extra windy, even an A4050 could be blown over.

Simply put: The A4050 was the first boom stand that I bought, thinking "buy once buy right" and it's one of the rare occasions that I should've gotten the cheaper/smaller option. I have yet to move into a studio (again, vast majority of my work is on-location) but the A4050 has been sitting relatively unused waiting for it's time in a studio. I use my A4039's on every location shoot that I do.

This is really helpful. Thanks for the info. Ordering the 4039 right now.




  
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Jan 26, 2012 22:16 |  #13

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This is really helpful. Thanks for the info. Ordering the 4039 right now.

Awesome. You'll love it.


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Jan 27, 2012 08:48 |  #14

bdillon wrote in post #13775633 (external link)
This is really helpful. Thanks for the info. Ordering the 4039 right now.

Just remember it takes a while (sometimes a long while) to get it. I want this stand also. Right now getting by A420 and like that it has wheels. There was an issue with wheels for A4039, might want to check that also if you want wheels.


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Mar 12, 2012 13:30 |  #15

Has anyone figured out a wheel/caster solution for the A4039?




  
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