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Mar 12, 2012 11:56 |  #6376

PacAce wrote in post #14071960 (external link)
Harshness of light and eveness in light spread are two independent properties but the answer to your question is yes, it can be harsh and it can give you an nice even spread. Were you planning to use the reflector on the window or on the backdrop? Or both?

I am thinking on the window itself.

Basically this is a large product shot on a white background.

So I am wondering if the varistars will give me a big spread of light without it being too harsh?


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Mar 12, 2012 12:56 |  #6377

JackSw1ss wrote in post #14070598 (external link)
^ stefan has the 44 but don't recall if he has the silver or white interior...
I have the softlite but the 70cm, not the 44...

cheers!

Cool... I actually want the 70cm... they don't have it here though :-P

For a beauty dish is it better to wait for one than to get the 70cm deep octa?


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Mar 12, 2012 13:39 |  #6378

Hey guys, just passing through.

What I will mention is that I've had numerous shoots since this thread died and I haven't bought or even thought about buying a thing!


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Mar 12, 2012 13:46 |  #6379

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Hey guys, just passing through.

What I will mention is that I've had numerous shoots since this thread died and I haven't bought or even thought about buying a thing!

Hey Luke, if I remember correctly, you use the Varistar 135's.

Would you use them to light very large product if the need arose?

Large double glazed window fittings.


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Mar 12, 2012 14:05 |  #6380

symbolphoto wrote in post #14071123 (external link)
Well at weddings, i certainly use the 70-200 more. But during shoots outside where i can take my time, i probably use both equally. For weddings, i use it more in dark situations.

Ahh, was wondering because I want 70-200 2.8, but 200 2.8 is more affordable lens. :)


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Mar 12, 2012 16:11 |  #6381

200 2.8 is real nice, I had it for awhile and it is on my buy back list.


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Mar 12, 2012 16:18 |  #6382

The 70-200II is a notable improvement over the verI, but i have to say the 70-200I is still an amazing deal for an awesome lens.

The 200L is a very big and heavy lens. It's hard to carry around all day long, unless you put it in a Pelican case like i do. So i keep it all of my back.




  
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Mar 12, 2012 16:38 |  #6383

mtimber wrote in post #14072178 (external link)
I am thinking on the window itself.

Basically this is a large product shot on a white background.

So I am wondering if the varistars will give me a big spread of light without it being too harsh?

If you want lighting that is not harsh, then what you need is a large light source. A strobe with the Eli wide angle deflector is too small a light source to provide non-harsh lighting even with a deflector. As I said earlier, the amount of light spread has nothing to do with the softness or harshness of a light source.


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Mar 12, 2012 18:17 |  #6384

Even spread is my main priority.

I pictured this acting similar to an umbrella but harsher.

Would you say that is correct?


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Mar 12, 2012 18:40 as a reply to  @ mtimber's post |  #6385

tman2782 wrote in post #14069717 (external link)
Anyone here have examples of the 44cm Softlite?

Debating whether to get the softlite or the 70cm deep octa to use as a BD.

tman2782 wrote in post #14072557 (external link)
Cool... I actually want the 70cm... they don't have it here though :-P

For a beauty dish is it better to wait for one than to get the 70cm deep octa?

I have the 56 Porta Octa that I'm using as a beauty dish. I have only done one shoot with it so far but I'm very impressed with the results.

Here's a couple of examples.

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Strobist: Elinchrom Quadra with 56 porta octa with translucent reflector acting as a beauty dish boomed high camera right at about pwr setting 5 shot at f13.

Second Quadra camera left with 100 deep octa at floor level about 8 feet from model just to open up the clothing.

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Strobist: Elinchrom Quadra with 56 porta octa with translucent reflector acting as a beauty dish boomed high camera right at about pwr setting 5 shot at f13.

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Mar 16, 2012 05:21 |  #6386

Morning all,

Exciting post for me as i'm actually allowed to post in this thread now! Picked up a set of Quadra's two weeks back at Focus On Imaging (big UK trade show) with a deep octa and other various bits.

I'm doing a personal series this year called the "I Am..." series, using environmental portraits to document different careers and the unique individuals behind them. Until now i've been using speedlites, and this is the first instalment where i've used Quadras. It's "Sky's the Limit" for Great British Olympic Athlete JJ Jegede:

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Spent the entire day out on location (10am-6pm) and managed to photograph him for all of five minutes. Madness, but entirely worth it as i'm now looking forward to a days shooting with him in the summer. Full story/setup is on the blog...

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Mar 16, 2012 05:33 |  #6387

^^Good portrait. :-)


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Mar 19, 2012 04:25 |  #6388

Couple of the first shots I took when i got my Quadra Ranger A set. Shot in a small warehouse/sport court, with 1D4 and 70-200mm

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Here are some from a shoot I did for a Motorsport workshop of their latest build. The size of the Quadra's really cam into their own here as I had nearly no room to work. Reason for the 12mm focal length on a 5D2

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Mar 19, 2012 19:08 |  #6389

mtimber wrote in post #14070820 (external link)
I could do with some advice from those that have used the Varister 135.

I have a project coming up where I need to shot some large double glazed windows on a white backdrop.

Now I am thinking that I could get a nice large light source out of the varistar reflectors with deflectors.

But as I have never used these reflectors before, I do not know if they will provide too harsh a quality of light, or whether they will give me a nice even spread.


Any advice?

I use the Varistar 135 softbox, together with the reflector (#26164) you get a very broad, very even, bright but not harsh light (great for portraits & groups & large products). If you use just the reflector (without the Varistar softbox) you get a very broad, even, bright, somewhat harsh light (may work for large product depending on your need/requirement or flooding a white paper background). If you use just the reflector with an Eli deflector you will get broad, bright, but uneven light as the deflector, whether the white, silver, or translucent will cast a shadow area in the center of the image. This is more noticeable on a light colored object with a white background. Bottom line is, the Varistar reflector is not really designed to be used with deflectors, but rather the Varistar softbox or naked by itself. For your type of set-up I would recommend the Varistar 135 softbox together with the #26164 reflector. Just my opinion of course, based on actual usage.


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Mar 20, 2012 04:58 |  #6390

say_cheese wrote in post #14115643 (external link)
I use the Varistar 135 softbox, together with the reflector (#26164) you get a very broad, very even, bright but not harsh light (great for portraits & groups & large products). If you use just the reflector (without the Varistar softbox) you get a very broad, even, bright, somewhat harsh light (may work for large product depending on your need/requirement or flooding a white paper background). If you use just the reflector with an Eli deflector you will get broad, bright, but uneven light as the deflector, whether the white, silver, or translucent will cast a shadow area in the center of the image. This is more noticeable on a light colored object with a white background. Bottom line is, the Varistar reflector is not really designed to be used with deflectors, but rather the Varistar softbox or naked by itself. For your type of set-up I would recommend the Varistar 135 softbox together with the #26164 reflector. Just my opinion of course, based on actual usage.

I have here two Varistar 105mm umbrella boxes ordered last week for the job. :-)

Interesting point you make about the Varistar 135 reflector and deflector setup.

It has been recommended to use 2 of these to light a white backdrop.

But you say this causes a problem in the center of the light?


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