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DSLR to Micro 4/3. Anybody made the switch and been happy?

 
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Mar 10, 2012 13:12 |  #226

I've thought about investing in a smaller, more portable system at times but I still don't like the tradeoffs and don't think I'd be happy with a Micro 4/3 system. When I decide to go smaller, I still want a larger sensor, so it will more than likely be something like the M9 unless Canon or Nikon wakes up and decides to compete. Small enough for me :D

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Mar 10, 2012 14:53 |  #227

what about a side profile? and with a lens on it that is where the NEX loses ground. Im not sure they have any pancakes available.


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Mar 10, 2012 15:03 |  #228

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I guess this would be the best example

pancake vs pancake.

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Mar 10, 2012 16:03 |  #229

tete wrote in post #14063018 (external link)
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I guess this would be the best example

pancake vs pancake.

What is that, a 20mm f/1.7 on a GF1 on the m4/3 side? And a 16mm f/2.8 on the NEX side. NEX bodies are amazingly small--impressive really considering the sensors are a little bigger. If the goal is the smallest 1 body and 1 lens combo NEX is a good way to go (the tiny 14mm f/2.5 would make the m4/3 combo smaller than shown here, but I think the NEX combo would still be smaller). If you plan to take advantage of multiple lenses that's when the lens size advantage of m4/3 shows.




  
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Mar 10, 2012 20:13 as a reply to  @ Yohan Pamudji's post |  #230

Side profile: NEX-5N with Voigtlander 15MM vs Canon 5Dc and 17-40L

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Mar 10, 2012 20:59 |  #231

WOW! Of course we are not comparing apples to apples in regard to capabilities, but still... However, was in the Nevada outback today doing some exploring, and as many times in the past, tossed in in an Oly E-P2, not the 5DII. Unless one needs a specific attribute of a full-sized DSLR, why lug it along? I am really struggling with how much to invest down the road in the DLSR side. Sensor (and lenses also to some extent) technology is advancing SO fast!


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Mar 16, 2012 20:23 |  #232

WOWSERs! looking at the samples, the OM looks to be an absolute winner. IMO beating out the Nex5n and in some cases up to the 5d mkII. holy cow. I think Olympus hit one out the park with this one

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Mar 16, 2012 21:01 |  #233

tete.. thanks for sharing that. now i'm starting to save up for the OMD.. and just hoping the olympus being in hot waters will only drive the price down... or one could hope. haha :)

any idea how large we can print using this cam vs. 5D2?


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Mar 16, 2012 21:17 |  #234

The OMD looks great, but it looks to me like the body is about the size of a Rebel body. Of course you will save weight with lenses, in most cases, but not always. For example, a T2i with the nifty-fifty would, I think, be a bit smaller and lighter but probably have similar IQ as the OMD with, say, the Panasonic 20mm 1.7 (which costs 3 times more). Of course, the Oly 45mm 1.8 has a fov like the canon 85.18, and is only half the size, but is the overall difference that great?
Sorry, I'm just thinking aloud here. I've sold my new Gx1 and oly 1.8 lens though. I liked them in a lot of ways, but as an IQ crazy prime shooter who loves shooting wide open, I have found I just can't give up my big sensor. I have my GF1, 20mm combo on the block now in another forum...


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Mar 16, 2012 21:38 |  #235

Mookalafalas wrote in post #14100530 (external link)
The OMD looks great, but it looks to me like the body is about the size of a Rebel body.

In height and width it's about halfway between a Rebel and the GX1
vs Rebel: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,219 (external link)
vs GX1: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,183 (external link)

It is not nearly as thick as a Rebel though, and weighs a good bit less.


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Mar 16, 2012 21:39 |  #236

if you look at this review.. it looks like it's smaller than a rebel. but with the grip.. it should feel pretty good.

check out this review. i think it's pretty good.. just didn't appreciate them banging such a beauty around with their messy handling.

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Mar 17, 2012 00:36 |  #237

krb wrote in post #14100604 (external link)
In height and width it's about halfway between a Rebel and the GX1
vs Rebel: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,219 (external link)
vs GX1: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,183 (external link)

It is not nearly as thick as a Rebel though, and weighs a good bit less.

Wow, that is a niche website!
OK, it's about 8mm in height and length longer, and width is more, too. But is that enough to warrant starting a second lens collection, or selling the one you have and starting over?
Maybe that is a critical difference. I had two notebook computers that were just a couple pounds different in weight, and yet one seemed a pain to carry around (so I always left it at home) and the other no problem (and so I took it everywhere). Maybe this is a similar critical difference? I guess everyone has to decide on their own...The 12-50 lens that comes with the OMD gives a great range, but it looks honking big on the camera. It's not getting slipped into any pockets.
When I shot with a rebel, I always used a grip to make it bigger;) I'm just a DSLR man, I guess.


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Mar 17, 2012 02:18 |  #238

Mookalafalas wrote in post #14101263 (external link)
Wow, that is a niche website!
OK, it's about 8mm in height and length longer, and width is more, too. But is that enough to warrant starting a second lens collection, or selling the one you have and starting over?
Maybe that is a critical difference. I had two notebook computers that were just a couple pounds different in weight, and yet one seemed a pain to carry around (so I always left it at home) and the other no problem (and so I took it everywhere). Maybe this is a similar critical difference? I guess everyone has to decide on their own...The 12-50 lens that comes with the OMD gives a great range, but it looks honking big on the camera. It's not getting slipped into any pockets.
When I shot with a rebel, I always used a grip to make it bigger;) I'm just a DSLR man, I guess.

If you're not in it for the small, there's very little point in going m4/3. But as these samples show, with the E-M5 there's now no noise performance gulf to speak of between m4/3 and APS-C. Dynamic range remains a question but early tests there have it beating the Sony APS-C cameras as well. That leaves continuous AF as the main performance win of APS-C DSLRs over m4/3. It's a very exciting time to be a m4/3 user!

For me the size difference isn't about one body vs. another or one lens vs. another, although in those one-on-one comparisons m4/3 wins handily enough. It's system size and weight that tells the full story. m4/3 has some very small high quality primes. Stuff those in your bag and you're way ahead of the game size and weight wise.

Of course if you prefer bigger cameras then you must be lost if you're wandering around here :)




  
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Mar 17, 2012 02:31 |  #239

krb wrote in post #14100604 (external link)
In height and width it's about halfway between a Rebel and the GX1
vs Rebel: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,219 (external link)
vs GX1: http://camerasize.com/​compare/#289,183 (external link)

It is not nearly as thick as a Rebel though, and weighs a good bit less.

Frontal view is small enough (significantly smaller than the smallest Canon DSLR--how much smaller does it need to be?! :lol:). Then go to side and top views and prepare to be amazed. Makes the Rebel look downright huge, and we all know how small the Rebel really is.




  
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Mar 17, 2012 07:42 |  #240

Wowsers, Yeah I just the the side view and then it became very apparent of the 44% difference in size. It's funny that we sit here and criticize these m4/3 cameras but the technology is proven. The images printed out in 11 x 14 will be very good still. Probably indistinguishable from APS-C. Better than APS-C of just a 1 year ago. Better than Fuji APS-C IMO

http://camerasize.com/​compare/#183,219 (external link) try this one in side view and then the advantage for size is just crazy


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