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Mar 19, 2012 12:03 |  #1

how to crop this size in CS5 or Lightroom 4 for prints ?
please help me out, thank you :)


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Mar 19, 2012 12:19 |  #2

Set an 11x14 crop Ratio


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Mar 19, 2012 12:35 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #3

i tried that, is there any other way, without me losing the rest of my pic ?


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Mar 19, 2012 12:39 |  #4

Neil B wrote in post #14113660 (external link)
i tried that, is there any other way, without me losing the rest of my pic ?

No. It's not the ratio your camera takes pictures in most likely. So you have to crop some off. When taking photos, you have to be aware of the intended use, crop ratio, etc. and then compose the shot to allow a crop to work - 11x14 is pretty close to the same ratio as 8x10, though not quite. I always leave space to the sides or top/bottom depending on orientation when doing portrait work so that a standard 8x10 crop will work.


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Mar 19, 2012 13:08 |  #5

Neil B wrote in post #14113660 (external link)
i tried that, is there any other way, without me losing the rest of my pic ?

This works in Elements so I imagine it will also work with CS5:

Draw the crop box with the desired aspect ratio anywhere on the image.

Next, drag any part of the crop box outside any border or corner of the image.

(This two-step approach is necessary because you can't initially stretch a crop box beyond the image borders, but you can drag it outside once it is created.)

Then enlarge the crop box to encompass all of the image plus some overlap beyond the image borders. Center the image within the crop box as desired.

Select OK. That will add canvas to your image so that it now has a border. The border will be the color of your currently set background color. The resulting image will be the desired aspect ratio and you will not lose any of the original image.


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Mar 19, 2012 13:09 |  #6

Rimmer wrote in post #14113814 (external link)
This works in Elements so I imagine it will also work with CS5:

Draw the crop box with the desired aspect ratio anywhere on the image.

Next, drag any part of the crop box outside any border or corner of the image.

(This two-step approach is necessary because you can't initially stretch a crop box beyond the image borders, but you can drag it outside once it is created.)

Then enlarge the crop box to encompass all of the image plus some overlap beyond the image borders. Center the image within the crop box as desired.

Select OK. That will add canvas to your image so that it now has a border. The border will be the color of your currently set background color. The resulting image will be the desired aspect ratio and you will not lose any of the original image.

And you won't have an 11x14 image either. You'll have a smaller image with a border.


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Mar 19, 2012 13:21 |  #7

Neil B wrote in post #14113660 (external link)
i tried that, is there any other way, without me losing the rest of my pic ?

Are you worried about losing the rest of the image for purposes of printing? In this case there's not a lot you can do about it except by either re-sizing the image to the 11X14 ratio from its original 2X3 ratio (which will distort it), or doing what Rimmer suggested and cropping a larger area than your original image so you have the original image inside a larger 11X14 blank (or whatever color you want to fill with) background.

If you're worried about losing the rest of the image for purposes of saving after you've cropped, just save the cropped image as a new file, such as [original file name]11X14.jpg.


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Mar 19, 2012 13:24 |  #8

Neil B wrote in post #14113660 (external link)
i tried that, is there any other way, without me losing the rest of my pic ?

As long as you don't enter a value in the ppi field (in PS), or don't resize upon export in LR, you won't loose anything except the part you're cropping off.
The fact that you need to crop off a part is because your camera shoots in a 2:3 ratio.

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Mar 19, 2012 14:41 |  #9

I actually made an attempt at explaining this on video. Maybe it will help, although I think Rene did a good job. I cover the aspect ratio of your camera and what you loose if you print. Fast forward to 2:00 for the juicy stuff.

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Mar 19, 2012 15:01 |  #10

Save your crop as a copy ,then you will keep the original :) .


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Mar 19, 2012 15:56 |  #11

As has been said, to get a "full bleed" print at 11x14 you have to either crop some of the image off or stretch it to fit.

If you don't want to do that you will need to add borders as has been discussed.

This can be done in Photoshop with a lot of creative options.

In Lightroom, you won't be able to work directly with graphical frames/borders. You could lay out an image onto a particular paper size, centered. If you have to export to a lab, you could try the Lightroom Print to File function.

There is also the Mogrify plug-in for Lightroom with which you can do more work with borders.


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Mar 19, 2012 18:58 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #12

thank you everyone, i appreciate all the tips !! :)


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