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Mar 15, 2012 21:56 |  #1

With a media/press pass/credentials, is the 70-200 usually enough for actual racing coverage? Or is longer glass preferred? I've been saving and planning on replacing my 300 F4L with its 2.8L bigger brother for the upcoming race season, but now I'm debating if I should hold on to my 300 F4L and upgrade my 70-200 to the IS II version. I know I'll have media credentials for the season so I won't have to worry about access and being too far from the track, plus the IS would sure be nice to have on the 70-200. What do you all think? Continue saving for the 300 2.8L IS or go for the 70-200 2.8L IS II?


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Mar 16, 2012 01:40 |  #2

Completely depends of what you shoot. I find 70-200 more than enough for most rally, cross, go-kart and offroad events, but it's definitely too short for track racing. Yes, credentials get you closer, but most of the time still not close enough.

Also, I have the non-IS 70-200 f/2.8 and don't miss the IS.


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Mar 16, 2012 02:13 |  #3

I'll be shooting time attack racing at Buttonwillow, Road Atlanta, Palm Beach Raceway, New Jersey Motorsports Park and Texas Motor Speedway all of which I've never shot at so I don't have a clear idea where/how close I'll be able to get. I shot the last race of the past season at Infineon Raceway and the 70-200 worked great there but I also used the 300 F4L. Other factor is cost. Would be around $1000 to go from the non-IS to IS II 70-200 while going from the 300 F4L IS to 300 2.8L IS would be around $3000 more.


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Mar 16, 2012 02:57 |  #4

GOA510 wrote in post #14094606 (external link)
With a media/press pass/credentials, is the 70-200 usually enough for actual racing coverage? Or is longer glass preferred?

It depends.

For every circumstance where a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens will work well, such as this image at 104mm...

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...there will be other circumstances where a narrower field of view is needed, such as this image at 500mm.

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Note that the first image is from a restricted area, while the second image is from a public viewing area that is only a few feet behind the credential area.

Unfortunately, the only way to be absolutely certain which lens to bring is to know in advance what circumstances you'll face. It's tempting to recommend that for motorsports action, the longer the lens, the better. I've seen plenty of photographers with close trackside credential access who still use monopod-mounted 400mm-600mm lenses.



  
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Mar 16, 2012 18:39 |  #5

Thanks Tessa and DC Fan for the info and photos :) Just liked you talked about DC Fan is the various lenses you can use. When I was saving for a 300 2.8L I started thinking "Wait, shouldn't I go for a 400 2.8L for when I really need the reach?" Thing I have to remember is that (with fingers crossed) this wont be my last time shooting motorsports. Plenty of time to grow in skill and lens selection, we all start somewhere.


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Mar 20, 2012 17:09 |  #6

i think that if the 70-200 is your workhorse it should be the best glass in the lens that you can get. the other stuff will fall into place. The 300 you have now is no slouch and could use an upgrade in a bit. I would go with the IS II


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Mar 20, 2012 17:20 as a reply to  @ peeaanuut's post |  #7

Tessa wrote: Completely depends of what you shoot. I find 70-200 more than enough for most rally, cross, go-kart and offroad events, but it's definitely too short for track racing. Yes, credentials get you closer, but most of the time still not close enough.

Completely agree, too short for track racing.

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Mar 21, 2012 02:33 |  #8

Thanks peeaanuut and rsash :) The 70-200 2.8L did serve me well for the last race of the previous season, but of course, none of the races this year are at that same track lol I think what I may do is continue saving and stick with my current setup for the first race. I believe we're also doing a testing day at the same track as the first race so it'll give me a little extra time at the track. Then I can have a better idea (hopefully) of what will suit me better. I was thinking of renting one of the lenses I'm interested in for each race, but looking at the weekly rates it'd be nice chunk of change out of the new lens savings :(


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Mar 22, 2012 00:50 |  #9

The 70-200 is a standard in motorsport shooters kits, but it's not the be all and end all.
It depends on what you're shooting as has been mentioned.


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Mar 22, 2012 12:18 |  #10

I'm going to Long Beach this year with my 70-200, and considering either buying or renting a 1.4X, but am on the fence about it, at this point.


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Mar 22, 2012 12:22 |  #11

Mike, just a heads up. Fullerton camera has a used 1.4x II for $275, or they at least had it a day or 2 ago. Just a heads up if you are looking to buy. Also, Calumet might have a few more 1.4x II in stock at $309. I got the last one at Santa Ana the other day but they may have them in the LA store still.


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Mar 22, 2012 12:49 |  #12

i'd highly suggest a 1.4x at long beach. I'd also suggest carrying a wide angle (17-40 or 24-70).


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Mar 22, 2012 13:25 |  #13

Thanks guys !

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Mar 27, 2012 02:22 |  #14

id use a F4 as its much lighter and most mospo events are in good lighting, and if its an open course, you dont want to be running with a monopod and f2.8 lol.

also carry a 1.4 teleconverter at least just in case you need the extra zoom




  
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Apr 02, 2012 10:46 |  #15

Usually good enough for more standard panning work but if you want the 'in your face' tele photo compression style shot you will want 400-500 IMO.


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