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Sub 50mm lens for a crop - suggestions?

 
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Mar 26, 2012 07:53 |  #1

As my sig says, I use a 550D, and from 50mm and up I'm happy with what I have. But the only thing I have below 50 is the kit lens, and I really don't like it.

I was thinking of a Sigma 30mm 1.4 HSM, but when reading up, it hasn't gotten very good reviews. Maybe people are happy with them anyway, but maybe there's something better out there, so I was hoping anyone had some ideas :)

I'm unfortunately not made of money, so it is an issue - a used Sigma 30mm can be found here in Sweden for around $380, and I like that price point. I'd say $400 would be around what I'd like to spend at most. I have no problem with buying used.


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Mar 26, 2012 09:35 |  #2

With a large aperture prime I'd be a little careful about getting one that works well on your 550D, as you lack MA. If there are used ones locally that you can test then that would be perfect, otherwise the best you could probably do is buy one from somebody that has a 550D themselves and trust them that it works fine. You could always just take the risk, too, and possibly have to get it calibrated.

You don't really say what it is that you're after though. Are you unhappy with the small aperture of the kit zoom? Sharpness? Colours? Something else? The very large aperture lenses not only present a problem with focusing accuracy but are not always the absolute best in other areas. Perhaps a replacement for the 18-55 with another zoom is more what you're looking for?




  
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Mar 26, 2012 09:50 |  #3

I guess it is a bit of a crapshoot, with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, I bought one and I love it but I also had MA on my 7D, thankfully I didn't have any back/front focusing. It's one of my favorite lenses to use, it's a very good focal length for a crop sensor.


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Mar 26, 2012 09:57 |  #4

Absolutely, the part about getting a "bad" Sigma lens is definitely why I worry.. I guess I would have to get the seller to send me some test shots first.

And yes, I don't like the small aperture, and I don't know if it's just my copy of the lens, but I feel that it's just not sharp enough. Overall IQ is just.. bad? I don't know, compared to the 50 1.8 and 70-200, it's not acceptable IMO. Colors I don't care that much about, I shoot RAW only and would consider myself pretty good at Photoshop/editing in general, so I can always fix colors in post processing.

I'm open to idea of a zoom, but then I feel like I'd want one with a constant aperture, but that's just me being picky I think, hah! I don't know, I'm getting hooked on primes I think, but it's not a requirement.


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Mar 26, 2012 10:00 |  #5

How about a Tamron 17-50mm non-VC lens? It's f/2.8 all the way though and I see them all the time for about $325 used.


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Mar 26, 2012 11:31 |  #6

I just got a Tamron 17-50 nonVC, so far it looking extremely sharp.
If you want a prime for your crop, the 35 f2 might be a nice choice that has a good price.


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Mar 26, 2012 12:17 |  #7

I love my 17-50 /2.8 non-VC (on 50D).
But that said, i'm also looking for a faster prime like the 30/1.4 or a 28/1.8...

Almost grabbed a 28 from the Canon refurb site with the 15% discount, but they don't list the lens any more.




  
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Mar 26, 2012 12:39 |  #8

I've bought 2 Sigma primes the 30 1.4 and the 50 1.4 and both were sharp out of the box no MA required. If you're worried about a "bad" copy then buy from a local store where you can try it out first.




  
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Mar 26, 2012 12:50 |  #9

I'm really happy with my Canon 28 f1.8.


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Mar 26, 2012 13:06 |  #10

I'd really like the 28 1.8, but it's also more expensive :/

Never considered the Tamron, but I wonder if I'd rather have zoom up to 50, instead of a faster sub-50 prime. Hmm..

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I've bought 2 Sigma primes the 30 1.4 and the 50 1.4 and both were sharp out of the box no MA required. If you're worried about a "bad" copy then buy from a local store where you can try it out first.

Yeah, I'd definitely do that if it wasn't for the fact that there are no camera stores near me, at all - and the ones "closest" (yet they are far) are for sure charging too much for it, and that is if they even have it. Sad but true..


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Mar 26, 2012 13:10 |  #11

If you want something with better IQ than the sigma 30 1.4 in the same range and with a fast aperture, you have to go for the 35L. The sigma has better IQ than pretty much everything else. And even with the 35L, you're only really going to see an improvement at the edges, because its the same as the sigma in centre frame!

Canon's 35 F2 is great too, but at f2, its not exactly fast.

The 28 1.8 won't suit you if you aren't satisfied by the sigma's IQ, because the 28 is a bit softer than the sigma.

I think the main reason the sigma gets bad reviews is the edge performance. If you look at USER reviews, at least those of us who don't shoot test charts, you'll see we're all in love with the lens :)


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Mar 26, 2012 13:33 |  #12

The Sigma 30 is a fine lens. If you don't like it, send it to Sigma, get it back. It takes like two weeks.

Also, the Sigma 30 isn't really a problem lens.

Again, the Sigma is the lens for you. It's one of the must-haves for crop shooters.


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Mar 26, 2012 13:40 |  #13

Im starting to realize that, like Sirrith says, it's mostly because of "test chart" shots in reviews that has me thinking it's a "not so good" lens.. But I'm coming around, and now I actually want that Sigma! :D


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Mar 26, 2012 13:49 |  #14

I had the Sigma 30 for a while on my 50D, but the AF was not reliable on my copy, mind you it was a used copy and had the old finish. In this range look at the Sigma 30 or Canon 28mm 1.8. Test both locally to make sure they perform up to par!


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Mar 26, 2012 13:56 |  #15

I was actually in the same boat. I wanted something shorter than my 50mm so I went down to a local lens rental place and tried out the 35L. It was an awesome lens when it focused properly. My rented lens was not hitting its mark most of the time. I tried MA but focus kept shifting when subject distance changed. It had difficulty focusing in the dark with or without flash focus assist. I'm not sure what it was but I didn't work well for me.

I then went to a local camera store to try out their Sigma 30mm. The first lens was horrible and everything was out of focus. The 2nd lens I tried was pretty good even though it required -3 MA so I bought that one. I took it out one night for dinner and I was pretty amazed on how accurate its focus was. I was nailing focus at everything I throw at it even in ISO 3200, F/1.4, 1/50th. Needless to say, I'm very happy with my purchase and I don't hesitate using this lens in the dark. Don't be afraid to try it out! ^^


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