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What starter video equipment to get?

 
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Mar 26, 2012 15:54 |  #31

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Buy and try doesn't sound too thrifty when the items are quite expensive.

Honestly, does Zacuto provide something that lower end products don't?

Yep. Just like Really Right Stuff, Markins and Gitzo do. But sometimes you just have to BUY them and own them to find out what everyone is talking about.

As far as Zacuto goes, the only thing I think they make thats worth the money is the Z-Finder loupe and their EVF. Everything else they sell is way over price and silly looking. For all other rig stuff I swear by Redrock Micro.

Not to mention you can buy any of this stuff from plenty of places that will give you 30 days to return it. Thats what I meant by buy it and try and see yourself.


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Mar 27, 2012 03:20 |  #32

The Zacuto Z Finder has build quality, which is one of the reasons it costs more. Also, Id say a percentage of that high price is for the name they have established, and the ease of mind that you are getting something that is considered "good" by the community.

Alas, i'd consider the Z-finder a luxury item, because you really can get the same exact job done with one of its far far cheaper cousins. Which is why I skipped it and bought the Varavon Profinder, and coincidentally it's still cheaper than a Z-finder.


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Mar 27, 2012 03:59 |  #33

I started off with:
7d + 50mm 1.8 (WAAAYYY TOO CROPPED, wide angle is a must!!!) + rhode video mic
Spare batteries are a must!!! these things eat through them with video mode.


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Mar 27, 2012 11:01 |  #34

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For you to make a statement like that means you are only basing your claim on what you know.

This doesn't even make any sense... God forbid somebody has a different preference than thou.

I'm not saying they are useless. I'm just saying it isn't a necessity at this point. It's a luxury item at best; you don't NEED a Z-Finder to get sharp images like you need lenses to get images at all. Read: nuanced point.




  
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Mar 27, 2012 17:11 |  #35

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This doesn't even make any sense... God forbid somebody has a different preference than thou.

I'm not saying they are useless. I'm just saying it isn't a necessity at this point. It's a luxury item at best; you don't NEED a Z-Finder to get sharp images like you need lenses to get images at all. Read: nuanced point.

Yes, it does make sense. Maybe you're just not getting it... :rolleyes: Or maybe you can't. I said the exact same thing you just did. You stated this by saying that no one would need one of these loupes. And that's where I and others here disagreed with you.

And yeah, God forbid that anyone disagree with me. Hell hath no fury like Chas scorned!!!! :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p


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Mar 27, 2012 18:27 |  #36

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What should I get within a strict 800 buck budget?

I might be able to help answer that question, but I must ask before doing so, what are your goals?

Is this a hobby purchase or a business purchase?

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Mar 28, 2012 05:54 |  #37

Hobby.




  
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Mar 28, 2012 06:04 |  #38

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Hobby.

Then buy yourself a decent tripod with a 75 or 100 mm bowl and a mid-priced fluid head, both of these are necessary base items for video, and unlike the little but rather expensive accessories, the tripod and head will retain their value for years to come, allowing you a monetary exit, should you decide video is not your cup of tea.

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Mar 29, 2012 12:10 as a reply to  @ Channel One's post |  #39

Didn't see it mentioned; the kit lens with variable F-stop can't be zoomed while shooting. Be sure to get a lens with an aperture that doesn't vary with focal length. . .


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Mar 29, 2012 14:13 |  #40

Dr, Thats what I was thinking.
Also, its suggested I do a manual exposure ?




  
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Mar 29, 2012 15:05 |  #41

Be aware that zooming while shooting will frequently give less than satisfactory results because the focus will often shift on most lenses as they're zoomed. Zooming while filming can certainly be done, but you need to keep an eagle eye on your focus.

Manual exposure is best if your shooting allows it (controlled or constant lighting). If not, use Auto ISO to control exposure. Don't use auto aperture or shutter speed (Av or Tv) to control exposure as these settings will actually change the look of your shot beyond merely brightness.

Of course, an experienced filmmaker (and I don't count myself in that category) can break all of these rules to obtain the look he/she wants, but folks just starting out should minimize the number of shot-ruining variables until they're more comfortable with the techniques.

Just my opinion.


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Mar 29, 2012 16:32 as a reply to  @ Snafoo's post |  #42

Best advice I can give is to do a lot of controlled test shooting to familiarize yourself with your equipment and its peculiarities, that way you can mimimize those pesky surprises !:o


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Mar 29, 2012 16:56 |  #43

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Didn't see it mentioned; the kit lens with variable F-stop can't be zoomed while shooting.

In most cases zooming while rolling should be avoided at al costs, and using a zoom as a substitute for a dolly shot is the mark of a duffer.

The primary reason for this is, dolly shots bring a shot to life, as the perspective and relationship of objects in the shot change and move in relationship to each other in the same manner as humans visualize something when they move closer to or further from an object.

Zooming merely tightens or widens the shot and does not provide the prospective of the viewer moving and in most cases blows the shot all together.

The secondary problem with zooming has to do with the operation of standard 35mm lenses, which for the most part have short and non dampened throws, making it nearly impossible to do a very controlled smooth zoom.

The tertiary problem is zooming with a telescoping lens as is it is virtually impossible to do so without disturbing what is framed, again blowing the shot

Now that is not to say zooms cannot be used in video, but to do so properly woud be to use them as primes, that is to say, set up the shot and set the focal length of the lens as needed, frame and roll, but as much as possible avoid zooming while rolling.

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Mar 29, 2012 16:59 |  #44

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Dr, Thats what I was thinking. Also, its suggested I do a manual exposure ?

Manual exposure would be the first choice unless you are doing a set and forget type of shoot.

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